Comments | happiestsadist: Late to the Party, But I Don't Care

happiestsadist

Late to the Party, But I Don't Care

Jan 13, 2010 17:46

On January 3rd, Mary Daly died. For those unfamiliar, well, the Wikipedia entry is a decent start. If you hate links, I'll sum things up as best I can. Daly was a Radical Second-Wave feminist, and one of the louder voices in 2nd Wave feminism. And of course, there's a lot of folks arguing as to how awesome her influence actually was with regards ( Read more... )

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thelittlebudgie January 13 2010, 22:12:35 UTC

D:

Just... D:

ltmurnau January 13 2010, 22:22:12 UTC

You know, for some reason her name (and what little I knew of her, sparked by that "decontamination" comment) popped into my head about 6:00 this morning while I was waiting for my alarm to go off. There's no way I could have heard of her death before your post; I would have remembered it. Weird!

happiestsadist January 14 2010, 00:03:31 UTC

And I was awake very early/late, considering whether to get to writing this, or going back to sleep. (I went with the sleep.)

ltmurnau January 14 2010, 00:22:42 UTC

Good choice!

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flewellyn January 13 2010, 22:59:50 UTC

No, she didn't. I was there, I saw what happened.

She wrote a post about how Mary Daly had died, that was all. She did not eulogize her, just noted her passing. When others pointed out Daly's transphobia, Melissa edited the post to reflect that. Then, some of the commenters savagely attacked her for not doing enough (in their view) to abase herself for her mistake in not already knowing the bad stuff about Daly.

The way you presented this above is a complete distortion.

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flewellyn January 13 2010, 23:07:20 UTC

Well, that's as it may be, I can see no reasonable way to read the thread and come to the conclusion you did, unless one was predisposed to assuming bad faith on McEwan's part.

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penumbra January 13 2010, 22:50:51 UTC

I can never get my head around trans-hate. Especially feminist hate of MtF. Do people seriously believe that men would willingly take on the sexism inherent in this society in order to invade feminism? I really don't understand how people can think that way.
I know. That's a kind of fail you have to work at.

happiestsadist January 14 2010, 00:06:20 UTC

I seriously cannot imagine why so many radfems have such a crazy hate for trans women either. It just doesn't compute.

flewellyn January 14 2010, 00:10:53 UTC

Given that transfolk explicitly subvert the gender binary and the supposed rigidity of gender roles, one would think they'd be accepting of it as proof that gender is fluid and socially constructed, no?

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flewellyn January 13 2010, 23:01:01 UTC

I don't understand a feminism that holds such horror for transfolk.

happiestsadist January 14 2010, 00:11:33 UTC

Well, Greer, Steinem, Daly and Raymond needed whipping girls, and after Friedan's "Lavender Menace" fell flat, there were at least leather people and trans folks to oppress.

kankurette January 14 2010, 08:41:06 UTC

I like Greer a lot, but her transphobic crap pisses me off. She has a rather weird attitude to FGM, basically saying "How come it's OK for women to get their rude bits pierced, but FGM is wrong?" (although I may be wrong here). Erm, CONSENT? And the fact that I had my hood pierced by a trained piercer in a hygienic environment with sterilised equipment, not with a rusty knife?

happiestsadist January 14 2010, 11:18:09 UTC

Yeah, the FGM shit was especially mind-boggling. All of my genital mods were done within the last couple years, with my grown ass deciding to do it, giving the okay as to placement and getting them because they look and feel amazing all in a sterile environment with a trained piercer. Big difference between that and being held down by relatives while smeone cuts off my fun bits with broken glass or whatever.