I'm glad to be reminded of your Sinusoidal Elegy--I read it again and I still LOVE it. Also, I just read Goblin Emperor last year and really liked it, so I enjoyed the villanelle!
I love fandom kerfuffles too, they're so entertaining. XD
I really enjoyed WandaVision as well! Like you, I wasn't particularly invested in Wanda and Vision and am not very familiar with early sitcoms, but it's fun to see the characters with new situations and more humor, and they're doing a really good job of mixing in the ominous elements.
So far, WandaVision has been perfectly watchable on a laptop screen -- since it's riffing on shows made for a TV screen of about that size XD -- but I'm sure stuff like Falcon and Winter Soldier will benefit from a proper viewing experience!
Love your fandom A-Z! Lots of things I was nodding madly about - AUs, crossovers, reccing, fan art, unreliable narrators and Yuletide stood up and shouted at me :) But also lots of things I hadn't thought of such as Sorting and Marginalia. That's one of the joys of fandom - the diversity of our interests and passions.
This really resonated for me - "LJ threads and WhatsApp interaction are great, but Zoom Best Chat drove home the point that it is actually possible to approximate that great feeling of sitting across a fannish friend with a cup of tea and having a spirited discussion or giggling for hours, and that's a great feeling.". Oh yes - I met my beta because I wrote to say I loved a story she'd written. Turned out we only lived an hour and a half apart and after several conversations we met in person and that was the start of a friendship that has been going on for the last 15 years. We now live on opposite sides of the Atlantic, but she's still my beta, my best friend and we chat for a couple of hours on Skype every Saturday,
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I was trying not to repeat too many of your items, but I was like, but I really LOVE AUs! and rec are such a natural thing to talk about! -- so in the end I repeated a bunch anyway :P
That's one of the joys of fandom - the diversity of our interests and passions.
Definitely! This has been my favorite challenge day to browse through, because people have written about so many different wonderful things, in different ways.
I met my beta because I wrote to say I loved a story she'd written. Turned out we only lived an hour and a half apart and after several conversations we met in person and that was the start of a friendship that has been going on for the last 15 years.
I love stories like this! <3 (though I'm sorry you're now separated by an ocean
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I am a long-time fan of Wanda, Vision, and their relationship from the comics. I've been unhappy with the changes they've made to them to put them in the MCU, and reluctant to try the show given the combination of my dissatisfaction with the changes and my outright hatred of Infinity War/Endgame.
..but have by fannish osmosis absorbed enough of the lore surrounding the Scarlet Witch ... to know that the pregnancy is Significant and likely to not have a happy ending.
Wanda and Vision's twin boys Tommy and Billy are active characters in the comic books which makes me happy, but they have over the years been retconned out of and back into existence making it hard to say where the show might go with a Wanda and Vision pregnancy.
I have a friend who is a huge fan of Tommy and Billy, so I picked up some vague impressions via her fannish talk, and it would be cool to meet them. But, yeah, I realize that's not necessarily where they're going with MCU.
I'm sorry you hated Endgame and what MCU has done with Wanda and Vision so far. (I can see how it wouldn't be very satisfying to a fan of the characters based on the movies so far. The show is definitely giving me more appreciation for them than I had based on the movies, but of course no way of knowing if it's make me appreciate them for the "right" reasons for a comics fan.)
I have a friend who is a huge fan of Tommy and Billy...
Yay! I'm still really happy that they let Billy and his boyfriend Teddy get married in the comics this year. I adore Billy/Teddy. <3
I can see how it wouldn't be very satisfying to a fan of the characters based on the movies so far.
Yeah, the MCU has tended to do very well or very poorly at making its own adaptations. There hasn't been much middle ground. I've really enjoyed--prior to Infinity War/Endgame--its handling of Loki, Bucky, and Doc Strange. I hate its handling of Hawkeye, Wanda, and Vision. Somehow it's managed to be really good and really bad with Cap, Tony, and Hulk. It seems like a big chunk of its problem with Wanda and Vision specifically has been it going the bad fanfiction route of not bothering with much detail because "everyone should know that." I might be a fan of the books and know and love the characters well there, but that doesn't mean I'm prepared to assume stuff about their adaptation.
Billy/Teddy is how I first heard about them, actually, via the same friend :) I didn't realize they had a big milestone in the comics this year, though -- I'm glad to hear it! (and should ask my friend her thoughts on that when we talk next :)
I hate its handling of Hawkeye, Wanda, and Vision.
As a non-comics fan, I can confirm that my reaction to everything Wanda and Vision in the MCU until WandaVision has been indifference and "wait, what?" Actually, pretty similar for Hawkeye, too, from I found very forgettable until Endgame, and then Endgmae made it a lot worse XD (I did, actually, like Endgame overall, but that was probably my least favorite part of it.) Like for a while I was genuinely baffled by why people seemed to be invested in Hawkeye in the MCU, until the penny dropped that these people were comics fans who loved Hawkeye from the comics and were making use of character and backstory from the comics to make up for not much interesting about him in the MCU itself
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didn't think much of Vision either (I like the actor, but didn't think they did anything interesting with the character Same here. It's curious and annoying how MCU tends choosing rather good actors over most popular ones (it's a star launcher rather than star collector; DIY approach to starship) and then wasting them, maybe except RDJ. And probably Hiddleston, I suppose, but I don't really care about Loki. Or about Hiddleston, for that matter. Going into the show format with the franchise was a good idea, I think, even before watching any of them. Many characters - and actors - were long overdue their opportunities. I doubt I'll be watching WV, but I genuinely happy to hear it works! My hopes for the others feel more grounded now!
(it's a star launcher rather than star collector; DIY approach to starship)
Heh, yes, they're very good at that!
Many characters - and actors - were long overdue their opportunities.
Yes, and I think part of it is, there's just such a huge "stable" of characters at this point (and by the point Wanda and Vision showed up, certainly), that it's impossible to give everyone enough time to be interesting unless they have their own franchise that they're prominent in. So it does feel like the TV format should allow to flesh out those characters who've been "falling through the cracks".
I hope the rest of the shows are good, too! Whether or not Falcon and Winter Soldier will be interesting to me depends, I suspect, on the balance of Sam vs Bucky, and I'm also not sure about the Loki thing -- I like him, but in small doses. But WandaVision has at least made me more interested in checking them out than I had been previously.
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I love fandom kerfuffles too, they're so entertaining. XD
I really enjoyed WandaVision as well! Like you, I wasn't particularly invested in Wanda and Vision and am not very familiar with early sitcoms, but it's fun to see the characters with new situations and more humor, and they're doing a really good job of mixing in the ominous elements.
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I love fandom kerfuffles too, they're so entertaining. XD
I'm glad to not be alone i this! (I guess it's the natural extension of me enjoying Jerry Springer back in the day? XD)
and they're doing a really good job of mixing in the ominous elements.
Yes! I'm really enjoying the balance of the encroaching creepy with the lighter wacky sitcom humor.
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(O watches it on his desktop monitor, which is reasonably TV-sized for gaming.)
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Lots of things I was nodding madly about - AUs, crossovers, reccing, fan art, unreliable narrators and Yuletide stood up and shouted at me :) But also lots of things I hadn't thought of such as Sorting and Marginalia. That's one of the joys of fandom - the diversity of our interests and passions.
This really resonated for me - "LJ threads and WhatsApp interaction are great, but Zoom Best Chat drove home the point that it is actually possible to approximate that great feeling of sitting across a fannish friend with a cup of tea and having a spirited discussion or giggling for hours, and that's a great feeling.". Oh yes - I met my beta because I wrote to say I loved a story she'd written. Turned out we only lived an hour and a half apart and after several conversations we met in person and that was the start of a friendship that has been going on for the last 15 years. We now live on opposite sides of the Atlantic, but she's still my beta, my best friend and we chat for a couple of hours on Skype every Saturday, ( ... )
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That's one of the joys of fandom - the diversity of our interests and passions.
Definitely! This has been my favorite challenge day to browse through, because people have written about so many different wonderful things, in different ways.
I met my beta because I wrote to say I loved a story she'd written. Turned out we only lived an hour and a half apart and after several conversations we met in person and that was the start of a friendship that has been going on for the last 15 years.
I love stories like this! <3 (though I'm sorry you're now separated by an ocean ( ... )
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I am a long-time fan of Wanda, Vision, and their relationship from the comics. I've been unhappy with the changes they've made to them to put them in the MCU, and reluctant to try the show given the combination of my dissatisfaction with the changes and my outright hatred of Infinity War/Endgame.
..but have by fannish osmosis absorbed enough of the lore surrounding the Scarlet Witch ... to know that the pregnancy is Significant and likely to not have a happy ending.
Wanda and Vision's twin boys Tommy and Billy are active characters in the comic books which makes me happy, but they have over the years been retconned out of and back into existence making it hard to say where the show might go with a Wanda and Vision pregnancy.
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I'm sorry you hated Endgame and what MCU has done with Wanda and Vision so far. (I can see how it wouldn't be very satisfying to a fan of the characters based on the movies so far. The show is definitely giving me more appreciation for them than I had based on the movies, but of course no way of knowing if it's make me appreciate them for the "right" reasons for a comics fan.)
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Yay! I'm still really happy that they let Billy and his boyfriend Teddy get married in the comics this year. I adore Billy/Teddy. <3
I can see how it wouldn't be very satisfying to a fan of the characters based on the movies so far.
Yeah, the MCU has tended to do very well or very poorly at making its own adaptations. There hasn't been much middle ground. I've really enjoyed--prior to Infinity War/Endgame--its handling of Loki, Bucky, and Doc Strange. I hate its handling of Hawkeye, Wanda, and Vision. Somehow it's managed to be really good and really bad with Cap, Tony, and Hulk. It seems like a big chunk of its problem with Wanda and Vision specifically has been it going the bad fanfiction route of not bothering with much detail because "everyone should know that." I might be a fan of the books and know and love the characters well there, but that doesn't mean I'm prepared to assume stuff about their adaptation.
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I hate its handling of Hawkeye, Wanda, and Vision.
As a non-comics fan, I can confirm that my reaction to everything Wanda and Vision in the MCU until WandaVision has been indifference and "wait, what?" Actually, pretty similar for Hawkeye, too, from I found very forgettable until Endgame, and then Endgmae made it a lot worse XD (I did, actually, like Endgame overall, but that was probably my least favorite part of it.) Like for a while I was genuinely baffled by why people seemed to be invested in Hawkeye in the MCU, until the penny dropped that these people were comics fans who loved Hawkeye from the comics and were making use of character and backstory from the comics to make up for not much interesting about him in the MCU itself ( ... )
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Same here. It's curious and annoying how MCU tends choosing rather good actors over most popular ones (it's a star launcher rather than star collector; DIY approach to starship) and then wasting them, maybe except RDJ. And probably Hiddleston, I suppose, but I don't really care about Loki. Or about Hiddleston, for that matter. Going into the show format with the franchise was a good idea, I think, even before watching any of them. Many characters - and actors - were long overdue their opportunities. I doubt I'll be watching WV, but I genuinely happy to hear it works! My hopes for the others feel more grounded now!
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Heh, yes, they're very good at that!
Many characters - and actors - were long overdue their opportunities.
Yes, and I think part of it is, there's just such a huge "stable" of characters at this point (and by the point Wanda and Vision showed up, certainly), that it's impossible to give everyone enough time to be interesting unless they have their own franchise that they're prominent in. So it does feel like the TV format should allow to flesh out those characters who've been "falling through the cracks".
I hope the rest of the shows are good, too! Whether or not Falcon and Winter Soldier will be interesting to me depends, I suspect, on the balance of Sam vs Bucky, and I'm also not sure about the Loki thing -- I like him, but in small doses. But WandaVision has at least made me more interested in checking them out than I had been previously.
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