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Apr 08, 2010 12:46

I've had trouble sleeping since the Daylight Savings Time shift, and that was what, a month ago? I love "fall back," but not so much "spring forward." The curse of being a night owl!

We enjoyed our trip to Santa Cruz/Capitola for Spring Break, despite the rain. The kids had a couple of good beach days, a little time at the Boardwalk before the ( Read more... )

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fourtenpm April 8 2010, 20:26:55 UTC
Those are the roots of tragedy, and it's launched a ton of great fanfic as well as hooking most of us on the show.

This one is so funny that I started laughing out loud, in the it is funny because it is true.

I am an atheist, and I do not mind the myth arc, basically because I do not believe.

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halfshellvenus April 8 2010, 20:51:45 UTC
in the it is funny because it is true.
That's always been the crux of the show for me. The beasties and the comic interludes are just backdrop to the Winchester story, and I honestly feel like I could live in Season One forever and still have stuff to write about.

There's melodrama (with everything being over-the-top, or too many "if onlys" and bad timing). But a situation where everyone is being themselves and doing what they have to do (Dean clinging to John, for instance, and Sam needing to get the hell away) you have real tragedy. Here, it's only the tragedy of emotion ("only"!), but the Winchesters are a family of volatile interdependencies and frustrations in tight orbit, and ultimately it is an unstable triad-- which is the beauty of it, dramatically.

I'm an agnostic, so I don't believe either, but nothing after S3 makes sense to me within the universe that Kripke created. Random demons committing random evil? Absolutely! Angels and revelations and God turning his back on humanity and the Four Horseman... *groans*

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tsuki_no_bara April 8 2010, 21:05:04 UTC
i don't think you have to be christian or a believer in any particular religion in order to find the whole gods/angels/lucifer/demon biblical apocalypse mytharc interesting. i'm agnostic and i think some of revelations is pretty cool. i'm annoyed that every end-of-the-world storyline seems to default to the biblical god-vs-lucifer/satan story, tho. make something up! use another paradigm! especially when you're spn and you've cheerfully used creatures from non-christian, non-western mythos before. one of the big bads in s1 and s2 was zoroastriani think heaven - or at least zachariah - was screwing with the boys' happiest memories, and deliberately manipulating which ones they saw. i find it very hard to believe that all of sam's happiest memories from when he was a kid revolve around getting away from his family. not just dad - i mean, we all know he hated being john's kid and really, really, really wanted a different life - but dean too. i can't imagine sam has no happy memories that involve his brother, and that he'd ( ... )

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halfshellvenus April 8 2010, 23:10:13 UTC
i'm annoyed that every end-of-the-world storyline seems to default to the biblical god-vs-lucifer/satan story, tho. make something up! use another paradigm! especially when you're spn and you've cheerfully used creatures from non-christian, non-western mythos before.
Exactly! That's part of it-- the show had baddies from every corner of earth history before S4, and suddenly we're locked into a solely christian paradigm. I preferred it the other way. Plus (sacrilege warning!), sometimes I find that the Apocalypse gets old for me.

i find it very hard to believe that all of sam's happiest memories from when he was a kid revolve around getting away from his family.Oh surely-- he must have had some great memories about other times (where was Jess, for instance?) We didn't see very many of their individual moments-- maybe 3 apiece-- so there's lots of unexplored territory there. I just enjoyed the juxtaposition of Sam's reality against Dean's, in part because I still don't think Dean ever fully "got" why Sam found the Winchester life so ( ... )

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gretazreta April 8 2010, 22:57:53 UTC
Maybe just THIS version of the world is Catholic. Like, maybe there's an Islaamic heaven as well. And a Valhalla, and whatnot. Like we've had tricksters and djinns and irish leprechauns and tulpas and all the different lores.

Maybe that's next season: when all the Norse gods get their shit on because of the Catholic gods killing their followers. THEN the angels would have something to whine about.

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halfshellvenus April 8 2010, 23:12:03 UTC
I wish I could believe that, but I think it's just Kripke turning his back on his early SPN canon in favor of his Impending Apocalypse gig. :(

I much preferred the "multicultural" SPN, in part because it implies that none of the lore is wrong. It's just that certain 'baddies' may have yet to be seen or 'named' in other parts of the world!

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