Comments | gyges_ring: Still alive, no rejoicing yet (sorry)

gyges_ring

Still alive, no rejoicing yet (sorry)

Jul 23, 2009 15:29

I got bored while not attending a lecture and waiting for a tute, so I decided to write a post, because I haven't for a while

( Things and stuff )

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nicholii July 23 2009, 09:23:08 UTC

Who is the bloggess, and why should I care for her?

gyges_ring July 23 2009, 11:37:01 UTC

http://thebloggess.com/?p=2695

nicholii July 23 2009, 09:26:18 UTC

Why should a nonconsensual vaginal examination be any worse than a nonconsensual anything* examination?

*Obviously checking someone's pulse is minor, but there are other things with similar invasiveness surely.

tarpy July 23 2009, 10:18:07 UTC

Actually, as I understand it from my vague memories of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, non-consensual digital penetration is a form of rape according to the law.

nicholii July 23 2009, 10:23:53 UTC

Yes, legally it is rape. I was more pointing out that it should not be seen as more an invasion of privacy. And if it is medically justified, then ok if similar examinations of unconscious people would be ok. That the problem is as much one about doing anything to someone who can't give consent.

tarpy July 23 2009, 15:29:20 UTC

Which is always a touchy area in medicine, since a patient apparently has implied consent. Or something like that, Tom knows more about it.

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auntpol July 23 2009, 09:41:37 UTC

thanks for updating us! ^_^

(med sounds retarded by the way. If I were going to do a medical degree I'd do vet, it seems like there is less stupidity with ...stuff)

tarpy July 23 2009, 10:16:01 UTC

Also, there's an argument that real doctors treat more than one species!

flyingmopsy July 23 2009, 11:11:01 UTC

Hehehe once the vet students went to UWA and put one of those stickers on the Dean of medicine's car

nyaow July 23 2009, 12:46:47 UTC

haah nice.

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nyaow July 23 2009, 12:46:11 UTC

why the hell were you performing a digital exam on a surgery patient?! pr?

who's your psych consultant? i'm surprised you don't find psych more entertaining. depends where you are i guess.

gyges_ring July 23 2009, 13:09:08 UTC

In fairness, the patient was in for a recto-vaginal fistula. The consultant was like "have you ever done a pv? Do a pv/pr while I go scrub" And then came back and was very much "you're doing it wrong! More vigour!" The consultant was very vigorous in showing us how to do it properly. So, really, I find the whole episode a bit justifiable and really disturbing, from beginning to end.

Psych is pretty amusing, but less so now I'm on the ward and off CL. I miss CL

nyaow July 23 2009, 13:12:18 UTC

ahhhh yes. funny, i thought the o&gs wouldve done that. on second thoughts, i think if it involves the bowel they'll fob it off asap. recto-vaginal fistulas scare me.

uhh that's pretty wrong of the consultant hey. i think you've got a good case for not getting busted.

cl is pretty funny and more fun than wards. probably because they're less likely to be medicated in cl.

tarpy July 23 2009, 15:24:40 UTC

I don't think there's much difference between a gentle and a vigorous pv/pr for the patient when they're anaesthetised, especially when they're about to have major surgery in that area. But it might make the difference between the doctor feeling something or not...But then again, surgeons aren't exactly famed for their tact.

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infamyanonymous July 24 2009, 15:44:48 UTC

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