I always forget too. The book I'm reading right now mentions that Arthur, Henry VIII older brother, was the first Prince of Wales in a long while to actually have much Welsh ancestry.
I'm tempted to get myself a subscription to Ancestry.com when I start working again, even though I'm reasonably sure I'm not descended from anyone interesting.
You might be surprised. I think when you get down to it, everyone's descended from someone interesting somewhere. I mean, really . . . if I ended up with royal lines in two out of the three pedigrees I'm investigating it can't be that rare. Neither my dad nor my biological father or their families were in any way aware of their exalted lineage. And it's fun!
Yeah I've got mine in Ancestry.com and it's got almost 4000 names in it right now. Does myheritage.com have an import function for other sites? I actually find Ancestry's tree view rather unweildy, but their resources make up for it.
I had problems with the generational math with the Beli Mawr line as well. I found sources placing him in both the 1st and 5th centuries CE! I went with 1st century because it made more sense given some of the other more reliable dates in the tree. Be nice if some of the Welsh kings were identified by more than simply their given name and their father's given name. I had one Owain ap Llewellyn ap Owain ap Llewellyn in my tree -- try working out generational math when that's all you have to go on!
I'm a little disappointed that the Welsh line is my adoptive father's and therefore not biologically my relations, but I'm convincing myself it's ok to claim them anyway :)
... just how very lacking my knowledge of British history is...
It's probably better than mine and I was born here. Admittedly, I dropped history after my 2nd year because of subject choices that were forced on me, and also because it was appallingly taught (ok, who can recite the names and dates of all the kings and queens from William to Victoria the quickest?). I'm learning so much more now that I dress up in silly costumes...
I've been reading about Nest, Rhys ap Tewdwr's daughter. :)
I learnt some English history in school, but a lot was self-taught at first. The Six Wives of Henry VIII and Elizabeth R were on TV when I was young, and I watched them with my brother, whose BA in history had a focus on British history. And I read. A lot. So I could actually converse with him a little about it. I've been a big fan of British history for a long time.
But then I took English history courses as an undergrad as well, which were fun. First a year-long survey, then a one-semester class just on the Tudors.
Yeah, Nest shows up in my tree as well. I thought it an interesting name :) I'll have to read more about her. You have a book you could recommend?
I've been meaning to rectify my appalling ignorance when it comes to History in general and British History in particular for awhile now, but somehow other topics keep pushing their way to the top of the to-read pile.
I own one that I bought in Wales -- privately published, sort of historical fiction -- that I'm reading in small bits and pieces. Let me go upstairs later and check it out. It's not great, but it was about her and was at the castle where we were visiting (and was associated with her).
Wait, here it is. Nest, the Story of a Welsh Princess by Bryan Alderson.
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I'm tempted to get myself a subscription to Ancestry.com when I start working again, even though I'm reasonably sure I'm not descended from anyone interesting.
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I had problems with the generational math with the Beli Mawr line as well. I found sources placing him in both the 1st and 5th centuries CE! I went with 1st century because it made more sense given some of the other more reliable dates in the tree. Be nice if some of the Welsh kings were identified by more than simply their given name and their father's given name. I had one Owain ap Llewellyn ap Owain ap Llewellyn in my tree -- try working out generational math when that's all you have to go on!
I'm a little disappointed that the Welsh line is my adoptive father's and therefore not biologically my relations, but I'm convincing myself it's ok to claim them anyway :)
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It's probably better than mine and I was born here. Admittedly, I dropped history after my 2nd year because of subject choices that were forced on me, and also because it was appallingly taught (ok, who can recite the names and dates of all the kings and queens from William to Victoria the quickest?). I'm learning so much more now that I dress up in silly costumes...
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I learnt some English history in school, but a lot was self-taught at first. The Six Wives of Henry VIII and Elizabeth R were on TV when I was young, and I watched them with my brother, whose BA in history had a focus on British history. And I read. A lot. So I could actually converse with him a little about it. I've been a big fan of British history for a long time.
But then I took English history courses as an undergrad as well, which were fun. First a year-long survey, then a one-semester class just on the Tudors.
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I've been meaning to rectify my appalling ignorance when it comes to History in general and British History in particular for awhile now, but somehow other topics keep pushing their way to the top of the to-read pile.
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Wait, here it is. Nest, the Story of a Welsh Princess by Bryan Alderson.
I want to try this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Princess-Nest-Wales-Seductress-English/dp/0752437712/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218568985&sr=8-1
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