How the other half lives

May 28, 2016 15:34

This is a gratitude post. Or possibly a meta discussion of gratitude. I'm not sure yet, because I haven't written it yet ( Read more... )

blessings, gardening, family history, gratitude, money, localvore

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bill_sheehan May 28 2016, 19:52:34 UTC
I am rich. I have more money than my brother-in-law. That's pretty much the standard definition.

Life is good.

Excuse me, have you any Grey Poupon?

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gwendally May 28 2016, 19:53:45 UTC
Hello, we grind our own mustard seeds combined with artisan vinegars.

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bill_sheehan May 28 2016, 19:54:51 UTC
😝

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haikujaguar May 28 2016, 19:58:58 UTC
I remember a moment on the Cosby Show where Mom Cosby explains to one of the kids that "you're rich if your money works for you, instead of you working for your money."

That's the definition I've used ever since.

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belleweather May 29 2016, 06:59:06 UTC
I struggle with this A LOT. We have so many experiences that 'mean' rich to most Americans -- I have three kids who have been to more countries in their short lives than my mother went to before she retired. They think nothing of spending a week in an apartment in Rome, or swimming with the rays in Cayman, or jumping on a cruise for a school break. They have NO IDEA how totally privileged they are, and don't really understand why their parents are alternately amused and horrified by that. Personally, I will almost certainly retire at 55 unless I decide that I want to work longer-term because I enjoy it. We're actively planning to take a 3-6 month unpaid sabbatical in the next 5 years to travel outside of work commitments, once P is old enough ( ... )

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coercedbynutmeg May 29 2016, 09:50:09 UTC
I feel your pain! I've lived within walking distance of the Atlantic Ocean. I've lived where I could see the Pacific Ocean (well, technically the Monterey Bay) out of my bedroom window. I see the Persian Gulf every day. I have a maid. I do not have to bust my ass.

But, you know, I do envy those people who can plant, like, a berry bush and see it yield some fruit before they move away, you know? My lifestyle just feels a bit more ephemeral than I'd like.

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meistergedanken May 30 2016, 19:21:08 UTC
" If I'm rich I'm not supposed to bill clients who have less than me. If I am rich I should support people who are poor - for example, let tenants not pay rent. There's a huge iceberg of antipathy towards the rich that runs deep deep deep. It has something to do with envy, which is an unpleasant emotion to feel and unpleasant to engender in someone else ( ... )

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meistergedanken May 30 2016, 20:23:53 UTC
You haven't noticed the same blame-someone-else-for-your-misfortune streak in Republican populism too?

Been going on in politics since at least the Roman Empire.

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meistergedanken May 31 2016, 12:58:13 UTC
"You haven't noticed the same blame-someone-else-for-your-misfortune streak in Republican populism too?"

In regards to the rich/producers? Which is what we are talking about? No. Absolutely not. Provide an example.

And don't do the whole "moving-the-goal-posts-thing". It's unbecoming and tiresome. And duh, we all know grievances have been nurtured and used by politicians for centuries.

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meistergedanken June 1 2016, 11:56:34 UTC
You and Gwendally provided the example.

" If I'm rich I'm not supposed to bill clients who have less than me. If I am rich I should support people who are poor - for example, let tenants not pay rent. There's a huge iceberg of antipathy towards the rich that runs deep deep deep. It has something to do with envy, which is an unpleasant emotion to feel and unpleasant to engender in someone else. "

"Yes, and the Democrat party has been stoking this resentment and profiting off this hostile mindset for decades."

Some rich people fit the stereotype that some Democrats push. Some poor people fit the stereotype that some Republicans push. That's the thing about stereotypes - a few people fit them. Demagogues and populists then capitalize on stereotypes to lead their large and willing populations of highly suggestible sheep to the abattoir.

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