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grrm

Sasquan and Beyond

Jul 26, 2015 00:57

A couple posts down, I posted about worldcon and what it means to me, and why I am going to be going to Sasquan and throwing a big party there (someone needs to make a big futile, stupid gesture, and it might as well be me ( Read more... )

hugo awards, worldcon, puppygate

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I want to become a Hugo Loser ext_2058420 July 26 2015, 07:06:19 UTC

Winning is a great honor but losing puts you in a bigger club. The parties seem more fun.

Re: I want to become a Hugo Loser filkerdave July 29 2015, 16:50:56 UTC

I want to be nominated for a Hugo so I can lose and go party!

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Re: I hope it just's all ends up in being "fun" utley92 July 27 2015, 23:53:28 UTC

I've always said the fate of every fandom is to eventually turn against itself. Making it the only way to like something at a certain point is to hate it.

Re: I hope it just's all ends up in being "fun" jordan179 July 28 2015, 04:46:28 UTC

So, basically, you think it's all gotten too combative and should just end with the defeat of the side you don't like?

Believe it or not, the Puppies agree with you! They just have a different opinion about which side they don't like!

Re: I hope it just's all ends up in being "fun" grrm July 28 2015, 18:47:53 UTC

I think it should return to being a literary debate.

If the fans of Kevin J. Anderson want to argue that THE DARK BETWEEN THE STARS is a better novel than ANCILLARY SWORD, that's a discussion that fans would gladly engage in. Much like that old DHALGREN v MOTE discussion from 1974-75, it could be spirited without being acrimonious.

But the moment the Pups started talking about cabals and conspiracies SJWs and CHORFs and ASPs and Puppy-kickers and such things, they took it to a much darker and uglier place. That's what we need to end. The name calling and paranoia.

And it would seem that some of the Puppies, like Kary English, see that too, which gives me some hope for reconciliation.

What I don't get the most. inquisitor77 July 26 2015, 07:39:35 UTC

Has anyone in the past ever actually been prevented from obtaining Worldcon membership ( ... )

Re: What I don't get the most. jeffsoesbe July 28 2015, 02:17:37 UTC

Quick correction: Brad Torgersen (who I assume you mean) did not win the Campbell when he was nominated in 2012 for 2011. E Lily Yu did. Brad was nominated for the Campbell, a Hugo, and a Nebula in 2012 (for his 2011 works), so he had an excellent year. Brad was indeed nominated for two Hugos in 2014.

- yeff

Re: What I don't get the most. grrm July 28 2015, 18:49:16 UTC

That's correct. Brad (like Larry Correia before him) was a Campbell loser.

Just like me.

Re: What I don't get the most. jeffsoesbe July 28 2015, 20:24:28 UTC

If you lose the "Campbell (Not A Hugo)" Award can you still attend the Hugo Losers Party?

Because, really, that's the important part :-)

- yeff

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Looking Forward To It copperqueen July 26 2015, 08:47:03 UTC

I look forward to being there, not to get into debates, but to experience my first WorldCon. It's within driving distance - hooray! I hope the atmosphere is rigorous but congenial. I hope there are very good panels. I hope to come away with new insights into writing so I can return home and write better. Those are my expectations. I hadn't even thought about parties!

Sasquan rmholt July 26 2015, 09:29:27 UTC

If you know if your going by Aug 1 can you announce it? I'm not a puppy of any kind and will be up on the Hugo nominees. It will be my first ever but I've been into SF for 50 years - & it's about time, eh? Spokane is in my area. If you just want to meet real people I bet there'll be enough.