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Jul 07, 2015 12:30

While I have been travelling, talking, touring, reading, writing, editing, and listening to great music these past few weeks, Puppygate has continued to fester, growing ever uglier ( Read more... )

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ext_2934744 July 7 2015, 20:21:32 UTC
Are they paying you to do this? I thought you didn't do advertising in your blog besides your own work.

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grrm July 7 2015, 20:32:54 UTC
I recommend books here all the time. And I link to the Jean Cocteau website, for the signed books we have on sale. My own titles, sure, but also books by many of the great authors who have appeared at the theatre: Neil Gaiman, Dennis Lehane, Anne Perry, S.M. Stirling, Junot Diaz, Michael Chabon, Diana Gabaldon, and many more.

Of course, this is a special case. The Tor boycott is an ugly attempt to try and cost some good people their jobs. It needs to be denounced and opposed.

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ext_2934744 July 7 2015, 21:00:15 UTC
I just thought it was weird to leave out why there is a boycott in the first place, so I googled it.

I didn't even know about it, but apparently it's because someone at Tor denounced all of them as "neo-Nazis" and "unrepentantly racist, misogynist, and homophobic" and Tor didn't do anything about it.

That's not cool at all either. "strike a blow for free speech and decency" should apply to radical imbeciles who call other people neo-nazis and every negative label just because they have opposing views.

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grrm July 7 2015, 22:45:28 UTC
If you googled it, you should also have read that not one but TWO apologies were issued for that tweet, one by the person who posted it, one by the publisher of Tor. That should have closed the book on the affair. Instead we have a boycott and calls for firings.

And I have yet to see anyone on the Puppy side apologize for anything, though their name-calling has far exceeded that coming from the fans.

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ext_1407911 July 7 2015, 20:28:14 UTC
You are a bad, bad man. I'd already bought some Tor books on the day that Beale issued his asinine edict, but obviously I need to go and buy some more.

Of course, this is not in any way an excuse for me to buy yet more books...

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grrm July 7 2015, 20:33:22 UTC
One can never have too many good books.

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aulus_poliutos July 8 2015, 16:25:07 UTC
No, but someone will soon need to sponsor a book tower where I can keep the lot. :-D

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ext_3182942 July 14 2015, 13:56:03 UTC
What I do is lend them out to friends who lose them and then the problem is solved.

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In tune athelas6 July 7 2015, 21:21:10 UTC
I just so happened to purchase Dangerous Women and Warriors I this past weekend. They're excellent.

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sue_bursztynski July 7 2015, 23:14:49 UTC
I have to admit that before I read the post, I thought you were asking for some multimillionaire to buy the company. ;-) Maybe "buy Tor books" would work better?

At this stage, I'm trying to stick to ebooks - no room, no room! (to paraphrase Harry Harrison) Until I have disposed of some of the stuff on my shelves to second hand shops or fundraising raffles, anyway.

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lumbridge July 8 2015, 00:43:57 UTC
Why are the sad puppies boycotting Tor books? By the way which fantasy titles would you recommend that Tor publishes?

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grrm July 8 2015, 01:27:42 UTC
It's the Rabid Puppies boycotting Tor, not the Sads. Plus some unaffiliated or semi-affiliated allies.

I will not attempt to explain the whole thing. In a nutshell, a Tor employee categorized the Puppies in a nasty way, some of them got outraged and demanded an apology, an apology was issued, but the Rabids decided that was not enough and now want resignations and firings. (Which they are never going to get, by the way).

Tor has published a lot of great fantasy. Their biggest series in the WHEEL OF TIME book, by Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson. I also suggest you try the LONG PRICE QUARTET by Daniel Abraham. Both those series are complete.

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lumbridge July 8 2015, 03:51:12 UTC
Ok thanks for your suggestion, I will check out WHEEL OF TIME and LONG PRICE QUARTET. I only read fantasy, history and politics, I don't have much fantasy series on my book shelf just LORD OF THE RINGS and A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE.

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aulus_poliutos July 8 2015, 16:51:40 UTC
I just took a cursory glance at my shelves for books with the Tor sign. There's Adrian Tchaikovky's Shadows of the Apt steampunk Fantasy - a whopping ten books and finished. Same goes for Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen (some of my favourite Fantasy); the main series is finished at 10 books, plus six side-novels in the same world by Ian Cameron Esslemont. Plus the first book in a prequel trilogy by Erikson. Also, Marc Charan Newton's Legend of the Red Sun quartet, in the tradition of China Mieville. That's 31 books right there to piss off the rabid puppies. :-P And I didn't even go to the other room.

Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel books are published by Tor as well. I think Mr. Martin mentioned those before.

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