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May 16, 2012 13:45

There's something I'm going to get over and out of the way up front, and then we can move along to other things. But, firstly, those who read this journal need to know, truly need to know and believe, that I am not to be told - ever - what I may and may not write about here. For example, should you be so clueless a git as to tell me that I must " ( Read more... )

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greygirlbeast May 16 2012, 20:46:42 UTC

Any plans to see Prometheus when it's out?

Put it this way: I only consider this the most important film of the year.

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whiskeychick May 16 2012, 22:54:43 UTC
I would concur: Prometheus = most important film of the year.

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martianmooncrab May 16 2012, 19:42:51 UTC
its your LJ, you can write what you want, I dont see you holding a (fill in the blank) to anyones head forcing them to read it.

We have free will, use it or lose it!

... now I am reconsidering seeing Dark Shadows, I have been totally turned off by the ads..

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greygirlbeast May 16 2012, 20:47:21 UTC

its your LJ, you can write what you want, I dont see you holding a (fill in the blank) to anyones head forcing them to read it.

Exactly.

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stsisyphus May 16 2012, 19:45:29 UTC
As I said elsewhere, I figured you'd either adore Dark Shadows or positively hate it. I suppose the distinction would have been as to how you approached the original. I took it pretty seriously, approaching it as a mystery or some sort of flawed thriller - but I'm sort of famous for getting poor readings of art (it's why I'm horrible with poetry). I will say that I liked several of the counterintuitive 70s film references (e.g. crayola-red paint for blood, Alice Cooper:Dark Shadows::Frankie Avalon:Grease), in opposition to the broader 70s references.

...it's gonna be a great cult classic

Even if I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as you, this I believe absolutely.

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greygirlbeast May 16 2012, 20:48:59 UTC

I took it pretty seriously, approaching it as a mystery or some sort of flawed thriller

Curious. Had you seen either the ads or the original series?

Even if I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as you, this I believe absolutely.

It seems inevitable.

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stsisyphus May 16 2012, 21:19:19 UTC
Had you seen either the ads or the original series?

Both. I thought the ads made it look like a glurgy, Austin-Powers-esque level of campy, mock-nostalgia mess with too-broad humor and obvious, lazy gags. And it did have obvious, lazy gags, but they didn't stand out as roughly as the ads made it seem.

I'd seen the original series in bits an pieces (and certainly not the whole series in total) during daytime TV while waiting to go to work. It's probably fair to say that I took it far too seriously, but that was probably because whatever camp was in the original I filtered out as being artifacts of 1970s television production ("Boom Shadows", anyone?), live teleplays, and vintage soap operas.

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stsisyphus May 16 2012, 21:31:13 UTC
All this to say, while I didn't love it, I didn't hate it either. And I wouldn't begrudge anyone who did love the hell out of it. Perhaps I would better enjoy it going in with a less "defensive" posture and with a few beers in me.

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ext_999196 May 16 2012, 20:16:06 UTC
I have only seen the early episodes of the show, mostly before they even had Barnabas Collins, did it become more campy as the show went forward, or am I missing something?, because those early shows don't seem campy to me. This is an open question for anyone.

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greygirlbeast May 16 2012, 20:50:30 UTC

I have only seen the early episodes of the show, mostly before they even had Barnabas Collins, did it become more campy as the show went forward, or am I missing something?, because those early shows don't seem campy to me. This is an open question for anyone.

I don't mean campy in the over-the-top Rocky Horror Picture Show, drag-queen sense of the word. I mean it in a more subtle "there's no way these guys are taking this shit seriously, it's just too silly" sense of the word. Which the cast essentially confirmed.

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stsisyphus May 16 2012, 21:25:19 UTC
I suppose it's an important distinction to be made between High Camp and the "campiness" inherent in any melodrama/gothic romance (which I understand Dark Shadows was originally supposed to be evoking; and I mean "gothic" in the original 18-19th century literary sense), or any television show which is essentially a televised stage production with minimal production values.

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greygirlbeast May 16 2012, 21:54:14 UTC

Yep.

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aarongp May 16 2012, 21:27:13 UTC
But, firstly, those who read this journal need to know, truly need to know and believe, that I am not to be told - ever - what I may and may not write about here
Yep. Your house, your rules. If visitors don't like it, they can piss off. Pretty simple really.

Planning to get to SD #77 this weekend. As well as A:W #2, which I received yesterday. Also want to read "Random Thoughts Before a Fatal Crash" from the Sub Press website. All while trying to finish the Shirley Jackson biography I currently have out on loan. A grand time ahead.

"Dark Shadows" looks like sheer fun. Hoping I can duck off and see it in cinemas.

Danielle, my bow-tie editor at Penguin has marketing nipping at her heels for copy on a book we've not even begun editing
That's definitely a good sign. Hopefully they come up with a really nice package--and promotion--for what will be a kick arse book.

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greygirlbeast May 16 2012, 21:56:19 UTC

Your house, your rules. If visitors don't like it, they can piss off. Pretty simple really.

So you would think.

Also want to read "Random Thoughts Before a Fatal Crash" from the Sub Press website.

Personally, I think it's one of my best.

That's definitely a good sign. Hopefully they come up with a really nice package--and promotion--for what will be a kick arse book.

Well...it pretty much always happens this way.

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