"My love, I am going to stand my ground."

Apr 14, 2011 12:58

Yesterday was, all in all, a strange day, possibly an almost good day. Certainly a productive day that was not without merit, and, also, which was shot through with threads of something better than the stressful mess of the last five or six days ( Read more... )

rp, cars, the drowning girl, jvp, rift, cover art, copyright, philip ridley, plesiosaurs, r.e.m., radiohead, music

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kambriel April 14 2011, 18:03:28 UTC
Personally, unless it's highly sentimental for you to use it (in which case I'd do a special first edition with it included), I'd skip the quote. I've run into that issue with certain photographers before too, and frankly, it's just so much less of a headache to use something else.

As a side note, although I understand the legal logistics behind "Michael Stipe told me I could use the line, and then Warner Bros. stepped in and said no." on a very base level, it irks me ridiculously when the person who created something isn't allowed to have the final say on granting personal permission to use it.

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greygirlbeast April 14 2011, 18:10:55 UTC

As a side note, although I understand the legal logistics behind "Michael Stipe told me I could use the line, and then Warner Bros. stepped in and said no." on a very base level, it irks me ridiculously when the person who created something isn't allowed to have the final say on granting personal permission to use it.

I find it obscene. Radiohead owned the lyrics, as did Philip Ridley, so there wasn't this problem.

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from_ashes April 14 2011, 22:12:21 UTC
It's very obscene. However, when an artist signs away the rights to their songs to a corporate entity, that puts the artist equally at fault.

Personally, I'd say to not deal with the nightmare that is US Copyright "law" and try to find another quote.

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greygirlbeast April 14 2011, 22:24:48 UTC

However, when an artist signs away the rights to their songs to a corporate entity, that puts the artist equally at fault.

Not necessarily. Not when the artist is trying to make a living, and there's not much choice. We're talking about a songs here from the early 90s and 80s. There were virtually no options but deals with record companies, and they took most everything.

I make deals I rather not, and it keeps the bills paid.

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lady_theadora April 14 2011, 18:13:43 UTC
A) Glad to hear that you'll be writing more sci-fi. A is for Alien has become one of my favorite books!

B) Wonderful news about The Drowning Girl cover. I hope they come up with something you like.

C) I can totally commiserate on the copyright/ licensing hassles. I work for a company that makes educational websites, and even when we want to use sources for non-profit, educational use only, there are often still fees involved, which now a lot of schools cannot afford to pay.

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greygirlbeast April 14 2011, 18:16:15 UTC

A) Glad to hear that you'll be writing more sci-fi. A is for Alien has become one of my favorite books!

It's good when editors ask me for it.

B) Wonderful news about The Drowning Girl cover. I hope they come up with something you like.

Indeed.

I work for a company that makes educational websites, and even when we want to use sources for non-profit, educational use only, there are often still fees involved, which now a lot of schools cannot afford to pay.

It's all fucking insane.

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fusijui April 14 2011, 18:29:29 UTC
I've done a lot of IP wrangling, though in the biotech/pharma side of things; from what I've heard and gather, music IP is by far the most weird and fucked of all domains of the field. For reasons that seem to have nothing to do with copyright law whatsoever, just the structure of the music industry.

Belatedly, Ginger Snaps Back was surprisingly good for me, too. Of course Hugh Dillon stiffly chewing some scenery never hurts.

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greygirlbeast April 14 2011, 18:32:07 UTC

Belatedly, Ginger Snaps Back was surprisingly good for me, too.

I just wish I'd not come to the first viewing with so much baggage. But yeah, second viewing, much fun.

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fusijui April 14 2011, 18:50:22 UTC
I think if I'd seen Ginger Snaps 2 before Ginger Snaps Back I would have reacted differently to the latter. As it turned out, the middle film, when I eventually did see it, ended up leaving me very very unimpressed.

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waristerrorism April 14 2011, 18:30:15 UTC
Will you please say "hey, thanks for blogging" to Hubero? I think you're supposed to be like, "Hey Hubero-- what'd you do yesterday?"

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greygirlbeast April 14 2011, 18:32:35 UTC

Will you please say "hey, thanks for blogging" to Hubero? I

Done.

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papersteven April 14 2011, 19:08:10 UTC
If there won't ever be a special limited edition of The Drowning Girl: A Memoir, with all the bells and whistles and additions you'd like it to, I vote for using the quote in the first edition trade paperback and then dropping it for subsequent editions. Just my two cents, thanks for reading.

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greygirlbeast April 14 2011, 19:09:35 UTC

If there won't ever be a special limited edition of The Drowning Girl: A Memoir, with all the bells and whistles and additions you'd like it to, I vote for using the quote in the first edition trade paperback and then dropping it for subsequent editions.

Well, as it stands, the first edition will be the Roc trade paperback. I haven't talked to Subterranean Press, but I doubt it's a project they'd take on.

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papersteven April 14 2011, 19:33:25 UTC
That's a shame, as I'm sure Subterranean would do a beautiful job with an edition. I was really hoping they'd publish a nice edition of The Red Tree with some bonus material, like the evidence from your website.

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