And the Sky Began to Scream.

Mar 31, 2014 15:17

Selwyn had to go to the vet for an eye infection. I waited in the freezing van, listening to Neko Case and shivering while heavy sleet pelted the windshield. Yeah, on March 31st. I may well be leaving Providence in the next few days, possibly for a couple of weeks. Spooky's looking at train fares. I've got too much work to do, and I'm strung out, ( Read more... )

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shanejayell March 31 2014, 19:23:01 UTC
Well, good luck with it.

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greygirlbeast March 31 2014, 19:26:24 UTC

All luck is dead. Luck was always for suckers.

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ext_2361345 March 31 2014, 19:40:59 UTC
I was awestruck by True Detective. I totally fell down that rabbit hole and thoroughly enjoyed every second of it. It's probably the closest thing I've seen to a perfect television show. How people didn't "get it" is beyond me, not because of the fact that it seems most regular TV watchers have the IQ of a gnat, but more because creator Nic Pizzolatto has a penchant for discussing every nuance of his show in detail to the media. In fact he laid out everything Setsuled wrote there in numerous interviews following the end of the series (as well as lots of other tidbits throughout the run of the show). So, I don't understand how in this day and age of people constantly burying themselves in the Internet, that someone could watch that show, not get it, and then not bother to even read what the creator had to say about it before launching into some lame internet review.

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greygirlbeast March 31 2014, 20:01:15 UTC

People, in general, want to be spoon fed pablum. They do not want to have to chew. Having to look up an interview online, looking for answers, reading the literature the series was derived from, that's chewing.

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ext_2361345 March 31 2014, 22:02:43 UTC
So true. It's a damned shame, as it often times keeps good literature and scripts from getting made in the first place. The success of the show shocked me too, but I'm sure as shit happy that good, literate programming is getting made for folks who can appreciate it.

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setsuled March 31 2014, 20:11:00 UTC
In fact he laid out everything Setsuled wrote there in numerous interviews following the end of the series

Oh, he did? I swear I haven't read any of those interviews. Cool.

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ext_1189638 March 31 2014, 19:50:50 UTC
1) that io9 review was terrible, and I was glad to read setsuled's criticism of it.

2) I liked the finale of True Detective, though I found myself coming back to Cohle and Hart's final discussion as Hart is helping Cohle out of the hospital. The last couple lines of dialogue when Cohle and Hart go back and forth about light versus darkness with the last line of dialogue being "Once there was only dark. You ask me, the light's winning" really confused me.

Part of feels like its a cop-out--a last minute back-slide into the kind of Judeo-Christian worldview that Cohle repudiates at every chance he gets.

Then another part of me feels like the dialogue could just as easily be explained as Cohle coming to the realization that the deeper nothingness he experienced when he almost died is the profound truth behind all of the eternal return and M-brane theory he talks about earlier. In the nothingness of death, he discovered some small hope that he can hold on to.

I'm curious to know what other people here thought about it.

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setsuled March 31 2014, 20:18:48 UTC
It didn't bother me. Really, the extraordinary thing is that Cohle stared into the void for so long without finding some kind of faith--or imaginary rationalisation--in an effort to keep his sanity. Possibly it was a real acknowledgement of an afterlife--which, when correlated with what seemed to be a reference to Bob Dylan's "Death is Not the End" in the previous episode, is not necessarily a happy thing. I think such ambiguity is rather appropriate in a show that was about an existence where the mind continually looks for answers but ultimately there's not even certainty that there's nothing.

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setsuled March 31 2014, 20:09:16 UTC
Selwyn had to go to the vet for an eye infection.

I was sorry to hear about that on Facebook. I hope he's doing better.

Now, this from setsuled (and I hope he won't mind my quoting him):

I don't mind at all.

All the Cthulhu hipsters who've never read Chambers, Machen, Blackwood, Ligotti, Bierce, and probably not even Lovecraft

I imagine there are more than a few who watched and said, "But how could it be related to Cthulhu if there's no tentacles?" Though I must admit that of those authors I've only read Lovecraft and Machen myself. The afterglow of True Detective prompted me to start reading The Shadow Over Innsmouth again this morning.

You were right when you said the show was kind of like an eight hour movie. It's just the sort of thing I've wanted to see more of in television--Game of Thrones kind of has it too. I love that we're seeing shows now with more layers unified by a distinct overall voice. I really hope a lot of shows follow the True Detective model.

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greygirlbeast March 31 2014, 21:13:23 UTC

I've avoided all the reviews. I just don't need that stuff.

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