Yeah, so caia_comica and I were talking about the sometimes complicated relationship of Hal Jordan and his Silver Age sidekick Tom Kalmaku. And I committed ficlet
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Me? No, I wrote about the emotional relationship of a sidekick to his hero, and how his wife feels about it. You're free to read into it whatever you please--do you have some reason for picking that interpretation, based on what you know about them? Hmm? *smiles brightly*
In the general, maybe, if not the specifics. It isn't so much another actual person as a whole part of their husband's life that excludes them--but then, that's an issue for any super-hero/civilian pairing, and actually I think it's more likely to trouble Wendi Tyler than Joan and Molly. (Or poor Inza Nelson, who half the time really is married to someone else entirely.) Tegra's also got the problem that her husband really is keeping a big secret from her, and--in this interpretation of her--she's picking up on that. The JSA spouses at least know about the superhero thing. And Jay in particular does his best to tell Joan everything he can.
(Side note: I just read the original issues where Barry tells Iris about his identity. I noticed two things: one, that revelation was brought on by encouragement from Joan and Jay--and more Joan than Jay. Two, Iris is so wonderfully undisturbed about the whole thing. "Oh, that? Yes, I knew all along, but it seemed so important to you to keep it a secret, so I just played along...")
I thought the revelation was much more layered in Mark Waid's rewrite of it for 'The Life Story of the Flash'.
Oh, yeah--Mark threw in everything but the kitchen sink to try and make that sound more plausible. Barry still doesn't come off looking wonderful, but at least he's got reasons.
::bitter that she does not have the original issues to compare::
I wouldn't call that a ficlet. That's merely your view/opinion, described. It's closer to an essay or academic paper than a story; you're disserting what you think of the relationship; it comes off as if you're just talking to a friend and are describing to them what you think of Pie and Tegra's relationship, and nothing more.
I'd call this an essaylet.
I'm not sure I agree with the portrayal though. I could see this situation between Bruce, Dick and Barbara, yes. But Hal and Tom's relationship in my eyes at least has never been that close. I don't think I've ever really seen anything that suggests Tom *worships* Hal, they've had more of a buddy relationship IMO -- more akin to something that Rick Jones has had with Bruce Banner or the two Captains. Not something I'd call worship.
But I'll cheerfully admit to not having read every Pie story out there.
*blinks* Well...then I think we'll have to agree to disagree. It's a vignette written from Tegra's viewpoint in third-person present-tense, in which she describes how she sees her relationship with Tom and Tom's relationship with Hal. I don't see where it's not a ficlet--I was avoiding the word "drabble" in a fit of literal-mindedness about word count--because it doesn't have plot or dialogue. If I'd meant it to be an essay I would have written it differently. (And would have spent rather less time hunting for the right phrases...)
I could see this situation between Bruce, Dick and Barbara, yes.
I wouldn't use the word "worship" with that relationship--at least, not at a point when Dick would be of an age for Babs to be interested--but yes, I know what you mean there, and somebody probably has written that one.
But Hal and Tom's relationship in my eyes at least has never been that close. I don't think I've ever really seen anything that suggests Tom *worships* Hal, they've had more of a buddy
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Still like this. Even deslashed. :)
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(Gee. What's going to happen if I do write slash?)
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Oh, god. Did you write slash about Hal and Tom?
Oh, that's just disturbing.
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I don't understand. A story about us fighting a serial killer?
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Yes, Hal. That's exactly right. This person wrote a slasher about you and Tom.
You just keep thinking that. It'll be better that way for everyone.
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(Really, when I slash them, you'll know.)
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*wonders, abstractly, if Molly or Joan ever feels this way*
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(Side note: I just read the original issues where Barry tells Iris about his identity. I noticed two things: one, that revelation was brought on by encouragement from Joan and Jay--and more Joan than Jay. Two, Iris is so wonderfully undisturbed about the whole thing. "Oh, that? Yes, I knew all along, but it seemed so important to you to keep it a secret, so I just played along...")
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::bitter that she does not have the original issues to compare::
Really, really think Iris was doing the passive-aggressive thing there though.
Good ficlet/ficbit/dribble/drabble/driblet!
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Oh, yeah--Mark threw in everything but the kitchen sink to try and make that sound more plausible. Barry still doesn't come off looking wonderful, but at least he's got reasons.
::bitter that she does not have the original issues to compare::
Here is the relevant scene.
Good ficlet/ficbit/dribble/drabble/driblet!
Thanks!
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I'd call this an essaylet.
I'm not sure I agree with the portrayal though. I could see this situation between Bruce, Dick and Barbara, yes. But Hal and Tom's relationship in my eyes at least has never been that close. I don't think I've ever really seen anything that suggests Tom *worships* Hal, they've had more of a buddy relationship IMO -- more akin to something that Rick Jones has had with Bruce Banner or the two Captains. Not something I'd call worship.
But I'll cheerfully admit to not having read every Pie story out there.
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*blinks* Well...then I think we'll have to agree to disagree. It's a vignette written from Tegra's viewpoint in third-person present-tense, in which she describes how she sees her relationship with Tom and Tom's relationship with Hal. I don't see where it's not a ficlet--I was avoiding the word "drabble" in a fit of literal-mindedness about word count--because it doesn't have plot or dialogue. If I'd meant it to be an essay I would have written it differently. (And would have spent rather less time hunting for the right phrases...)
I could see this situation between Bruce, Dick and Barbara, yes.
I wouldn't use the word "worship" with that relationship--at least, not at a point when Dick would be of an age for Babs to be interested--but yes, I know what you mean there, and somebody probably has written that one.
But Hal and Tom's relationship in my eyes at least has never been that close. I don't think I've ever really seen anything that suggests Tom *worships* Hal, they've had more of a buddy ( ... )
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