Marriage and motherhood outdated, or not?

[gothelittle]

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[juliet_winters]

The difficulty lies when circumstances force the woman into the workplace, even part time, and the man does not take on commensurate duties to help her out.

I work full time. I got the master's degree, the job with benefits, and my husband stayed home with the kids when they were little. We rented out part of our house to compensate. When he went back to work part-time, my mother came over and helped us out.
My husband has no qualms about changing diapers, vacuuming floors, cooking dinner, or doing laundry and dishes. But I think my husband is exceptional. If the husband expects full-service at home from his wife (and she is okay with that as some of my friends are) she had best be home full time. Otherwise the duties will need to be split accordingly or naturally the resentment will build.

[gothelittle]

My husband didn't expect full service at home, but he kind of likes it better that way, and I expect it of myself. My cubicle job just about nearly killed me. I was suffering from burnout and overstress on a regular basis, crying quietly in the bathroom, and then once I got home I'd start cooking and cleaning and just feeling like I was doing what I was supposed to be doing...

Even when man is willing to take on the duties, if a woman's heart is at the hearth (as the majority of women, study-wise, are), it's still cruel to force her into the workplace. As cruel as it is to take a man who was practically designed to be the best mechanic seen in decades and push him into the suit-and-tie managerial position.

As it is, my husband helps with dishes, diapers, and vaccuuming when we catch up on housework during the weekend. During the week, he goes to work and I homeschool our children and handle the household. :)

[juliet_winters]

Sounds ideal. Now that we both work full time and the kids are older, the housework honestly doesn't get done as well as it should. We both do it, but the kids are special needs and sometimes need hours of work in the evenings.

I know a lot of contented homeschool moms, and had it worked out, I'd likely be of your number. Never really enjoyed the cleaning though. It's duty. Plus, there's a bit of frustration with never having the time/energy to do it properly. Cooking on the other hand...

My job for many years was on the public service end of the library. Helping people find what they need is really a care-taking, womanly job, too. O, some men do it, but they usually eventually get kicked up to management. Nowadays, I do writing and can flex my schedule to meet my kids' needs. Husband is a teacher, so the summers are good.

[polaris93]

Women who preach that marriage mostly benefits men strongly tend to be Socialists, whatever they call themselves. And Socialists have a lousy track record when it comes to their regard and treatment of women -- and, especially, children. Convincing women to have children out of wedlock, without a man to help them support and raise those children, leaves those women and their children without protection and support -- prey ripe for the plucking, or helpless people in the path of "progress" who have no way to oppose what their would-be conquerors want to do to them. Socialists never think about the long-term consequences of that, however: http://polaris93.livejournal.com/3207057.html 70 years of Communism reduced Russia to an impoverished, dying nation with a rapidly dwindling population thanks to high infertility and emigration to areas of the world with better opportunities. Now, think about the whole world in the shape Russia is in today. That's what the Socialists

[gothelittle]

Agreed and agreed. :) And agreed! I see parallels in the burnt-out, dissatisfied women who followed feminism and the burnt-out, dissatisfied women trapped in Communist Russia.

[polaris93]

Yep. Interviewing those women and putting videos of the interviews up on Youtube just might help make people realize that maybe Socialism is not such a great idea.

[marycatelli]

Marriage decreases the chances that a woman will become dependent on the State -- or the Leviathan, if you prefer. Obviously a Bad Thing

[deckardcanine]

Marriage decreases the chance that the Leviathan will become dependent on the State? ;P

[gothelittle]

Yes. :D

[deckardcanine]

Even if men do benefit more, it doesn't mean that women don't benefit overall.

As for high expectations, yes, common problem. But what gave Gilbert the idea that it wasn't just as common among men?

[delphshadow]

You know, both sections of the entry sort of emphasize the superiority of the conservative method of reform. Not specifically those reforms that are politically/socially/financially conservative, mind you, but reforms that are implemented gradually, here a little and there a little, tweaking each piece and stepping back to see how the entire machine runs before moving on. Both feminism and the push against the traditional model of marriage have been implemented rapidly, full speed ahead with examining the results and contemplating the wisdom coming many years after the damage has been done. Largely, very few of the modern feminists tried tweaking a woman's access to the workplace, stepping back, and looking at the results to see if it was really making the typical woman happier and better-off before they moved on to tweaking the traditional marriage relationship. Opening up the workplace came at the same time as abortion which came at the same time as birth control advocacy which came at the same time as proposing that marriage was a

[gothelittle]

Well, I don't get the feeling that feminists or SSM advocates are interested in promoting the health, wealth, and safety of society. They seem to put the gratification of their desires above all else.

[delphshadow]

Naturally. Ultimately, the crusade is wholly self-centered and no amount of pleading for the general good will faze them.