sooooo about that whole court of gilded birds thing

Dec 20, 2009 13:19

I am still trying on the whole 'rewrite and finish!' front. And now I have like half the new first chapter done! So I am going to ask that you read it, and then tell me just how over-the-top the writing is, so I can correct before I get too invested in FLOWERINESS. Again.

FLORIIIIIIIIIID )

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I AM GOING TO DO THIS A BITE AT A TIME FOR CONVENIENCE AND CLARITY, DOES THAT WORK? clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 21:44:13 UTC
... you may get an Overall Impression at the end, if you're lucky. :'D

It was glorious summer in the palace, though spring damp lingered on its outer walls; and the only thing decaying behind its flower-decked gates was a king. His slow death did not much mar the beauty of the heat: it marked only the feverish, undignified end of a feverish, undignified reign. Still the courtiers were resigned to waiting it out in mostly respectful silence, having, as they did, all the grace of the well-bred. (The queen had exiled two ladies in waiting for inappropriate gaiety.) They amused themselves with quieter pursuits: noonday catnaps, mediocre poetry, and cool sherbets imported from the northlands.

* overall seemed a little jerky, not sure why.
* Is heat beautiful?
* ‘mar/marked’ doesn’t quite work (I think).
* the feverish, undignified end of a feverish, undignified reign - nice, I like that.
* Still[,] the courtiers were resigned... the grace of the well-bred - hrm, not entirely sure about that sentence somehow; breaking up the clauses ( ... )

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IT WORKS VERY WELL gogollescent December 20 2009, 21:50:11 UTC
First paragraph is, yes, sort of broken. Heat is so beautiful! Mar, marked, yes, I see your point. The courtiers' good breeding clause, is sort of unnecessary, I may just cut after silence.

And sherbets are ice cream, basically? Sort of. Whatever, close enough. And the northlands ARE COLD. Hahaha that actually makes no sense at all, not even a little, but uh. So. I'll just be thinking about that one. Hmmm.

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I HAVE A THOUGHT FOR YOU RE: JERKINESS clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 22:07:21 UTC
... this being that it's something to do with the way you're breaking up your clauses into such small pieces. Which I did mention in regard to that one sentence, but it's there throughout and I see in the second paragraph too. Hmm, not wrong, obvs., but a tad bit antiquated and doesn't flow very well (which I like, but that's a personal taste). *approves of cutting, advises economy with words wherever possible*

Sherberts are ice cream? *is enlightened* I always had this vague impression they were a sort of fizzy drink, but there: my vague impressions are rarely right.

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Re: I HAVE A THOUGHT FOR YOU RE: JERKINESS gogollescent December 20 2009, 22:11:00 UTC
Antiquated, yes. I think I will try to tone that down in general (not least 'cos I kind of deviate from it later).

Beautiful, beautiful ice cream: http://www.feedhimtothepigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/sherbet.jpg

And I know what you mean, I used to think 'limpid' was synonymous with 'languid'. *sigh*

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PARAGRAPH TWO clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 22:14:55 UTC
All but one, that is, and Kymnir was not really a courtier in any case, although he was a member of the court. He kept bare quarters on the highest story of the east wing that no courtier would have dreamed of living in, with droppings spattered everywhere, and enormous brass cages in the place of proper furnishing. And while the courtiers were waiting, he was working.

* All but one, that is, - I always hesitate over is/was in this sort of context; I normally go with was, but I guess that’s mostly a matter of preference. Is although he was a member of the court really necessary? - it strikes me as a little forced. (Especially since 'a member of the court' is pretty much the defining characteristic of 'a courtier', and never mind all the usual rhetoric about flighty courtiers vs Real Manly Men/whathaveyou.)
* storey, not story
* He kept bare quarters on the highest story of the east wing that no courtier would have dreamed of living in, - I find this awkward, although that may just be me; how about something like He kept bare ( ... )

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Re: PARAGRAPH TWO gogollescent December 20 2009, 22:21:35 UTC
I CHANGED THE IS/WAS THING LIKE FIVE TIMES DAMN YOOOOOU. *will look at again* And no, that is sort of a leftover of another half-baked idea I didn't end up incorporating.

Story is the AMERICAN spelling. *sulks*

And I am using your version. Kept? I could replace it with had, I wasn't thinking when i used it.

Also yayyy.

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Re: PARAGRAPH TWO clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 22:27:14 UTC
I CHANGED THE IS/WAS THING LIKE FIVE TIMES DAMN YOOOOOU. *will look at again*

Sorry. I do tend to do that myself.

Story is the AMERICAN spelling. *sulks*

I am learning all sorts of new things this evening!

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CHUNK THREE clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 22:54:08 UTC
"I sometimes think you are too enamored of your birds," his friend Altic said, on that sweet summer's day. He lay sprawled across the lone low-backed sofa Kymnir had deigned to keep, his long legs hooked over the side, and he watched with one eye.

...

"There is no other way to make them. Every detail matters; get too many wrong and they'd fall apart like the real thing even as they act like the real thing," Kymnir said, which was almost true, or rather, was wishful thinking of a useful kind. It was a pity Altic didn't gossip enough to spread it about. The more of his competition misdirected into imagining that his delicate machinery was the key to his success, the better. If he would have preferred to think that himself-- well. Every creator has their small regrets.

* his friend Altic said[,] on that sweet summer's day
* in a graceful curve[,] and he ran his thumb
* One wing splayed... from skin. - nice, I like that!
* He dipped his spoon into the glass of sherbet at his elbow and licked fruit-stained ice off its rim. - I like ( ... )

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Re: CHUNK THREE gogollescent December 20 2009, 23:01:42 UTC
Punctuation fiddling is very welcome-- I am generally of the 'JUST HAVE A LOT OF IT' school of punctuators and, well, sometimes it just does not suffice. Also I am so glad that the wishful thinking paragraph works as a taster, I vacillated between 'too little' and 'too much' on that one and it was horrible.

And I think I will take the second revision suggested, it works nicely (and is more alliterative! :D!)

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Re: CHUNK THREE clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 23:09:46 UTC
Punctuation can be a pain, I tend to find myself obsessively removing and then replacing commas. But these days, I think commas are more negotiable than in texts from a couple of centuries ago, say, where you have a comma between every clause and it's horribly jarring.

*approves of alliterative uptake!*

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CHUNK FOUR clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 23:19:46 UTC
"Lying witch," Altic said good-naturedly. "Sorcery is not so logical. No, you just like measuring things."

...

Kymnir grinned. "Your mother wouldn't be pleased to hear you so casual about your house's new heir."

* general: lovely dialogue, pleasant balance of friendly mockery going on, sets the scene neatly re: Altic's domestic setup. Slight touch of formality in this tendency to go with ‘it is’ rather than ‘it’s’ etc., is that deliberate?
* He took his fingers off at last and smoothed down the crooked barbs of misplaced plumage as best he could. - I think you could probably stand to make that ‘Kymnir took...’; otherwise, nice line.
* feeling the way the fine bones of the wing shifted, rolled slightly in their sockets when he pressed - nice, very nice.
* humoral balance - not sure I’m entirely convinced by ‘humoral’, unless you have examples of it being used in the wild?
* There were dark purple marks under his [own][- is this necessary? who else’s eyes might they be?] eyes: rare in this weather, which made spoiled young ( ... )

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Re: CHUNK FOUR gogollescent December 20 2009, 23:25:56 UTC
* It is not deliberate, I WILL THINK THOUGH. UNTIL IT IS.
* Yesss, more names in general, ambiguity: overrated.
* Ahem: http://ocp.hul.harvard.edu/contagion/humoraltheory.html
* Ick, that sentence used to be much nicer; I will go and clean up.

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Re: CHUNK FOUR clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 23:28:28 UTC
* Ahem: http://ocp.hul.harvard.edu/contagion/humoraltheory.html

Hmph. I still think it's a rather ugly word and would probably unfold it into 'the balance of humours', or some such. But there, personal preference at work.

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Re: CHUNK FOUR gogollescent December 20 2009, 23:29:26 UTC
Ye-e-eees, well, maybe, but in conversation do you really pay attention to whether you are using pretty words?

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CHUNK FIVE clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 23:45:11 UTC
"My mother--" Altic said, then paused. He sank deeper into the cushions and breathed out, slowly, and in.

...

And this time Kymnir couldn't read the look on his face. He shook his head, turned back to his work, and fanned the tail feathers out by force, stretched both wings out at once, and fixed the specimen thus and so with clasps designed for the purpose.

* CONTINUES TO LIKE THE DIALOGUE*
* Sendre[,] I mean
* letting the gaping wound in the conversation pass. - I think you might be pushing it a bit there.
* Kymnir placed a miniature ruler along the diagonal of the wing, marked down the length, and became aware that his friend was staring at him, long-stemmed spoon halfway to parted lips. - nice piece of stage direction, I like this glimpse of the Artisan At Work.
* his technical liege - hrm, slightly confusing, it took me another few lines to realise that this referred to the dying king rather than the young prince. But maybe I’m slow.
* a face like an axe[,] and the discomfort
* He pinched ... if he did it right. - ( ... )

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Re: CHUNK FIVE gogollescent December 20 2009, 23:51:15 UTC
*clings hopelessly to particularly egregrious archaisms*

I think I use the word technical too much. It is so useful! And uh. MAYBE FRESCO. INSTEAD OF MOSAIC. OR SOMETHING.

Noooo, keep plucking out the bird/craftsman bits, it makes me feel better about myself. :'D

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Re: CHUNK FIVE clodia_metelli December 20 2009, 23:59:27 UTC
*pats gently, carefully pries apart your clawlike fingers*

Yesssss, let GGK keep his shinybeautiful mosaics and go with something painted. The ancients were perfectly competent painters, it's just that paintings don't survive so well, so you have to go to catastrophically preserved places like Pompeii -- ANYWAY.

Duly noted, I'll do that next time. :'D And I am now beyond the point of thinking, if not actually up to the point of being asleep, so that's as much SRS STUFFS as you're getting from me this evening.

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Re: CHUNK FIVE gogollescent December 21 2009, 00:01:15 UTC
*quiet sobbing*

All right, well, you have Done Good. Any chance of Overall Impressions so far?

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