I was voicing my frustrations at Cal when he raised rebuttals to the points that affect your brother:
1) There won't be an increase in EVERY school's prices. Just in some. [I'd argue most, because of the poor management of research funding grants and government spending in non-science research fields]
2) Yes, he will still be able to afford university, because the loans will still cover the entire cost of tuition.
3) Yes, he can still pay back the loans after he graduates, because the money will only be deducted from his paycheck after he starts earning more than 21 000 pounds a year.
This is not to say I'm not fucking furious at Parliament, at the Lib Dems and at Scotland Yard right now, but yes. Just wanted to clarify those things.
1. Are you sure? From what they were saying today, all universities will charge £9000 regardless of what degree you choose...
2. and 3. Yes he can afford loans, but say we have the same issues we have right now--you can get a job, but the only one available is working in Tesco at minimum wage. Having that chunk of money come out of your salary, money that will affect his ability to move out/food/pay bills etc. I understand where you're coming from with this, but it does honestly feel like paying back loans will be a thousand times harder.
4. Wales is an option, Scotland not so much because they're exceptionally strict about letting students from the UK into Scottish universities.
Thanks for clarifying though. I know I probably sound dramatic but idk. This was mostly reactionary.
1) Nope. The thing they're raising isn't the fees, it's the CAPS on the fees. Therefore, universities now have the option of charging UP TO 9000 pounds. (really sad I don't have a pound key on my keyboard, omg)
2 + 3) The thing is, they've increased the point where you have to start paying back as well to reflect the increase in fees.
4) How good is your brother in school?
kdljwoi It's not dramatic. It's completely rational. Was just pointing those things out.
Also: back to my rage - 43 protesters being treated at hospitals, 700 protesters BEING CONTAINED ON FUCKING WESTMINSTER BRIDGE. On the motherfucking BRIDGE, Sarah. UCL Occupation's being awesome and have sent a delegation with bread to the bridge, but still. This is too fucking far.
1. Ah ok, that makes more sense. Of course the reality is that how many universities are going to turn down the opportunity to charge up to £9000 a year?
Right, which makes sense. Idk it just feels like you're starting working life in debt. It's not exactly encouraging....
alosjdk he's good at maths/science. idek if he wants to go to uni and i doubt he'd want to go in scotland/wales :/
sjlkdj oh man, politics and its never-ending corruption/deceit. God, sorry, I am such a cynic of politics/politicians in general but yeah, it sounds horrible nevertheless especially when they specifically promised you something but are not delivering. All schools here have financial aid, I think, and a lot of them (at least the ones I've visited) are starting to make the aid debt-free, as in you would not be obliged to pay off the loans after you graduate. I'm not too sure how that would work but if your brother wants to look in US schools, he could look into that too?
Are they seriously forcing students to have photographs taken by police? I'm sorry that sounds so maniacal asjkdljflk. Is the violence from both sides, or...? Guh Sarah. *hugs*
If 9000 pounds is a problematic tuition, then US schools are probably not something for him to look at. I graduated 7 years ago and back then my tuition was $30,000 a year (20,000 pounds) and it's gone up a lot more since, closer to $40,000 a year. True, state universities are cheaper (some as little as $10,000 or less) but that is only for residents of that state so a foreigner won't qualify.
:( Things are not looking good all over the world.
I have a colleague from London and she was telling me how a lot of her friends back home are struggling to find a worthwhile job and are starting to look outside the country. In Asia there's still a high demand for skilled/professional workers
I hope your brother will have some good options when the time comes for it :(
I am horribly cynical about politics and rarely touch on them as they inspire such rage askdhsklf..+_+..but this is really such a horrible, frustrating situation...so despicable of them to do an absolute about face on their original promises too. The way the riots got out of hand is just so rage inducing too agjkdflsfhdl /sighs (._____.) so worried over how friends and prospective students like your brother will deal with...hoping they find a way too manage :( .
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1) There won't be an increase in EVERY school's prices. Just in some. [I'd argue most, because of the poor management of research funding grants and government spending in non-science research fields]
2) Yes, he will still be able to afford university, because the loans will still cover the entire cost of tuition.
3) Yes, he can still pay back the loans after he graduates, because the money will only be deducted from his paycheck after he starts earning more than 21 000 pounds a year.
4) Abroad is an option, yes. But even more of an option will be Scotland or Wales. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuition_fees_(UK)#Funding_of_Higher_Education_in_Scotland
This is not to say I'm not fucking furious at Parliament, at the Lib Dems and at Scotland Yard right now, but yes. Just wanted to clarify those things.
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2. and 3. Yes he can afford loans, but say we have the same issues we have right now--you can get a job, but the only one available is working in Tesco at minimum wage. Having that chunk of money come out of your salary, money that will affect his ability to move out/food/pay bills etc. I understand where you're coming from with this, but it does honestly feel like paying back loans will be a thousand times harder.
4. Wales is an option, Scotland not so much because they're exceptionally strict about letting students from the UK into Scottish universities.
Thanks for clarifying though. I know I probably sound dramatic but idk. This was mostly reactionary.
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2 + 3) The thing is, they've increased the point where you have to start paying back as well to reflect the increase in fees.
4) How good is your brother in school?
kdljwoi It's not dramatic. It's completely rational. Was just pointing those things out.
Also: back to my rage - 43 protesters being treated at hospitals, 700 protesters BEING CONTAINED ON FUCKING WESTMINSTER BRIDGE. On the motherfucking BRIDGE, Sarah. UCL Occupation's being awesome and have sent a delegation with bread to the bridge, but still. This is too fucking far.
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Right, which makes sense. Idk it just feels like you're starting working life in debt. It's not exactly encouraging....
alosjdk he's good at maths/science. idek if he wants to go to uni and i doubt he'd want to go in scotland/wales :/
ARE YOU SERIOUS. Are they still being held now?!
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Are they seriously forcing students to have photographs taken by police? I'm sorry that sounds so maniacal asjkdljflk. Is the violence from both sides, or...? Guh Sarah. *hugs*
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I have a colleague from London and she was telling me how a lot of her friends back home are struggling to find a worthwhile job and are starting to look outside the country. In Asia there's still a high demand for skilled/professional workers
I hope your brother will have some good options when the time comes for it :(
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(._____.) so worried over how friends and prospective students like your brother will deal with...hoping they find a way too manage :( .
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