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gimmethemap

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Oct 26, 2010 19:48

I missed the initial fervor that started this discussion and have only been able to look back, but why are so many Wardens offering to help the Doctor build these "phones", which he's openly offering to everyone? Is everyone just really excited about tinkering with some new gadget, or are the lot of you really so fucking selfish as to dive headlong ( Read more... )

way more calm than she should be, doing it the pirate way

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[Warden Filter] dominie October 27 2010, 00:38:57 UTC

The problem being that they're already convinced now that we're keeping some sort of technology from them that we've had all along because of one girl's simple accident. Even one of us possessing that ability automatically makes them believe all of us do.

I have to try, and I'll keep trying. Pointedly not asking for assistance from the Admiral, who they're coming to distrust anyway.

[Warden Filter] gimmethemap October 27 2010, 00:40:38 UTC

Because telling them the truth rather than playing into their paranoia and offering them reparations is so much more work.

[Warden Filter] dominie October 27 2010, 00:45:13 UTC

They're not believing the truth! And it hurt people. I know you've been here for years and it's given you some grandiose feeling of self-perceived seniority over all of us other pathetic wardens who have no concept of how this place ought to work, but that also gives you no right to school me on the fine art of losing people! Including the ones that I can't go back and save. [Careful, tight inhale, because he's getting very angry and he doesn't want to. It's polluting.]

I don't want to fight. It succeeds, or it doesn't. Then we work it out from there.

[Warden Filter] gimmethemap October 27 2010, 00:51:09 UTC

Oh shove it up your ass. You didn't even try to explain the situation and hopped right into appeasement. Worthy navigation, you coward.

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namorofthesea October 27 2010, 02:20:28 UTC

And yet in some cases, the phones could be useful for more than a refusal to not let go. It could help to know if your family, your home hasn't been destroyed by the very thing that killed you, or to give instructions on what to do in your absence.

gimmethemap October 27 2010, 02:23:09 UTC

And if you're a Warden? You know what channels to go through in order to obtain those things.

If you're an Inmate? You need to EARN those things. You don't get to give instructions on what to do in your absence, that's essentially saying it's all right for them to continue living the life that got them here in the first place. Being dead means you're dead and until you earn your wings you don't get to negate the whole thing.

namorofthesea October 27 2010, 04:11:21 UTC

Perhaps, but in some cases it should be permitted, such as an outbreak of unforgiven dead or something of the sort, to warn people. Of course it should be monitored, but at least he brings the option to the table for inmates.

gimmethemap October 27 2010, 04:14:28 UTC

If they want to warn people then that's their decision to make when they GRADUATE.

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alzarian_youth October 27 2010, 02:24:43 UTC

I'm sorry you feel that way, but the Doctor isn't working without any idea of how it feels to see someone you saw die walking around alive again, and it hasn't seemed to hurt him. Besides, isn't that the whole idea of the Barge? You get to live again, you get to go back, you don't have to lose it all.

gimmethemap October 27 2010, 02:27:01 UTC

The whole idea of the Barge is that Inmates had a foot in Hell and are being given a shot to prove they shouldn't be sent there. It's not a free voyage.

alzarian_youth October 27 2010, 02:32:38 UTC

Well, no, but there's a difference between just calling home and...well, at least it's not fair to act like everyone will just be hurt more by this. If you wanted to say that they don't deserve it, then say they don't deserve it.

gimmethemap October 27 2010, 02:37:54 UTC

I'm saying it could hurt them because it could actually hurt them. I put the idea to my own Inmate years ago, and the ultimate conclusion we came to was that it would hurt too much.

And no, by and large they may not deserve it. It's up to their Warden to decide when they do and whether it's healthy for them to do it at all, not one pompous ass with a screwdriver.

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[Private] emptyyourself October 27 2010, 12:18:44 UTC

Can you blame them, Miss Adams?

[Private] gimmethemap October 27 2010, 19:00:00 UTC

Yes. They should know better.

[Private] emptyyourself October 27 2010, 19:04:24 UTC

Better than to want to speak to their loved ones, living or dead? Regardless of what we expect from the inmates, these are people who have glimpsed an opportunity to say those few words they wished they'd said.

Do not mistake me; I am not advocating this behavior - but I can certainly understand the desire.

[Private] gimmethemap October 28 2010, 07:04:20 UTC

I understand the desire, too, but I've got sense enough to understand where it leads.