Gerrymandering

Feb 16, 2017 14:31

As it does on a regular basis, the subject of gerrymandering has come up again. And, as always, I'm seeing people make the perfectly reasonable suggestion that we deal with it algorithmically. I'm all for that... until it is claimed that this would somehow make it non-political. And that's just bullshit. Dangerous bullshit.


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randomdreams February 17 2017, 02:42:41 UTC
Huh, that's a really good, thoughtful short essay. Would you post this on g+ so I could reshare it?

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gfish February 17 2017, 18:11:05 UTC
Done!

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sistawendy February 17 2017, 23:21:39 UTC
Arg. See my comment in randomdreams's repost about the Iowa solution. It's crude, but reasonably effective.

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andrewducker February 18 2017, 20:12:00 UTC
Alternatively, switching to a proportional system would fix this remarkably well...

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gfish February 19 2017, 07:04:42 UTC
Sure, that's always an option. It gives political parties way too much power, for my tastes. You can't mount primary challenges if the politicians are just chosen off a ranked list defined by a central party process. And I like representatives having a connection to a limited geographic area. I want them to have a sense of who their constituents are, beyond "the entire nation generally, and the party process that put me on the list specifically".

But that's all fiddly details. If proportional systems are the easiest way to create a system that doesn't inspire distrust in the voting public, I'm all for it.

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andrewducker February 20 2017, 09:48:07 UTC
A purely proportional system across the whole company would certainly have that effect.

But AMS (as used for electing representatives across Scotland) gives you local representatives for each area elected under FPTP and then a top-up across larger regions to make it proportional overall.

And STV (as used for local elections in Scotland) gives you something in-between with multi-member seats and ranked voting, which is proportional-ish but removes most of the party control.

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