I think... I'm kinda ashamed of my country.

Mar 18, 2011 21:54

Today, the UN Security Council finally passed the NFZ resolution for Libya. As predicted, Germany who's currently a temporary member, abstained. This is so very embarrassing and a fucking bad idea that I don't even know where to start. This isn't like Iraq where Bush tried to push the allies into a war based on assumptions and downright lies and ( Read more... )

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gelbes_gilatier March 18 2011, 21:22:22 UTC
aber wofür haben wir denn die UN

...genau! *fuchtel Meine Fresse, echt, diesmal wollen sie doch Hilfe...

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entchenmv March 18 2011, 22:08:04 UTC
well, don't get me started on Gutti. he didn't just not write his thesis. he lied about it. and to get to the soldiers: he used them to distract from himself. that Gutti was the first to actually call it a war is the only positive thing I ever heard about him. otherwise I only saw him being an attention whore.

And personally, I prefer De Maiziére, at least he's not taking his wife and a camera team to Afghanistan, making it look like it's almost like a holiday there.

but well, that's not the point behind this entry, no?

To me, Germany's abstention looks more like a No. Which is BAD and makes us look like we're supporting Gaddafi (but hey, mabye Germany still is. *Rüstungsindustrie* anyone?). And I think we already ARE laughing stock. I mean, I don't want soldiers there too, but we could still have said Yes to the NFZ.

But... well... I think politics in Germany are chaotic and stupid and weird and fucked up on every end right now. Everything but a democracy for the people of Germany. :(

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gelbes_gilatier March 20 2011, 16:32:12 UTC
And personally, I prefer De Maiziére, at least he's not taking his wife and a camera team to Afghanistan, making it look like it's almost like a holiday there.

He's not doing much else either, though, from the look of it. I'm just hoping that currently he's reviewing everything on the Bundeswehr reform and making some actual decisions concerning future troop strength, bases/posts and material, if he doesn't think it necessary to comment on a military action by our NATO partners. I really am trying to have faith in him, I swear.

And I think we already ARE laughing stock. I mean, I don't want soldiers there too, but we could still have said Yes to the NFZ.

Exactly. Saying yes certainly wouldn't have meant sending troops there as well (since it's not a NATO Article Five (Bündnisfall)... well, yet) but that's what you get when the chancellor focuses on irrational nuclear fears and let's Westerwelle who always seemed to have felt castrated intimidated and irritated by the DoD run his course. I have no idea how they plan on making up for ( ... )

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entchenmv March 20 2011, 19:09:15 UTC
As long as there's an election coming up (this weekend and next weekend AFAIK), I'm sure you won't hear much from him.

And I don't think Merkel was focusing on nuclear fears but rather on "losing-upcoming-elections" fears.

for the political parties, Libya and Japan are just a big annoyance and disturbance which they need to integrate into their campaigns now. I don't have the feeling they actually care...

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gelbes_gilatier March 21 2011, 01:23:37 UTC
As long as there's an election coming up (this weekend and next weekend AFAIK), I'm sure you won't hear much from him.

You're right. Of course you're right *sighs

And I don't think Merkel was focusing on nuclear fears but rather on "losing-upcoming-elections" fears.

Actually, both I think. I was more or less quoting Heiner Bremer from n-tv (which I probably should have mentioned before *sighs) who said that the abstention was probably the result of Merkel having been way too occupied with other things (the whole nuclear thing among them) and honestly, that's the only explanation for the thing I could agree on...

I don't have the feeling they actually care...

And here I thought I was the only one. The saddest thing is that I think this acutally applies to all major political parties, including the Greens and, to my unending irritation, the LINKE as well. Just looking at my fellow comrades' tweets makes me really aggressive lately...

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