The Lavender Ghetto

Sep 15, 2008 05:29

EPIC--the Electronically Published Internet Connection--has posted its rules, categories and FAQs for the 2008 Eppies. Looking the categories over, I have to say that they're a bit on the schizo side--not to mention homophobic.

To start out, here's the definition of "contemporary romance":

A story that takes one central, monogamous, romantic relationship between a man and woman )

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quinby September 15 2008, 12:56:14 UTC
Argh.

This is one reason that I'll probably never write the novel that's in my head.

In it, there is one character who struggles with his sexuality, however, that's part of the story. It's not the entire story. The entire story is about the struggles that people in my generation go through, and yes, that is one of them.

I don't understand people who think that a single- (or dubious-) gender relationship is completely about sex. My father is somewhat of that ideal, as are quite a few conservative people I know. I guess I just need to keep living my life and showing people that love is love no matter what package it's in. *fumes* (and yes, I actually have shown a few people that. It's amusing as all frell when people put it together. 'you're a lesbian!' 'so?' 'I would have never guessed!')

.... wow. End long rant.

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gehayi September 15 2008, 13:02:15 UTC
I think you should write the novel. I just don't think you should submit it for an EPPIE award. It would be like asking Benny to judge Mark and Roger.

I don't understand people who think that a single- (or dubious-) gender relationship is completely about sex. My father is somewhat of that ideal, as are quite a few conservative people I know.

I don't get that. It's the most idiotic idea ever, both in writing and in relationships! No one over at EPIC is saying that a het romance involving sex HAS to be erotica, so how come gay romance has to be?

People can be such fools. *hugs*

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quinby September 15 2008, 17:07:16 UTC
It might be out there someday. I'm just... not a writer as much as most of my friends are, and, yeah. It has to be done -right-. I want to write this so people will read it and not go 'oh, gay fiction', but go 'oh, this is real life'. I think I write with way too much of a purpose when I'm really trying.

And, yeah. There are so many het relationships that I know that're all about sex, and there are gay relationships that are about love and commitment. I think a lot of it is xenophobia in the true sense of the word. People are afraid of what is ailen to them.

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scrollgirl September 15 2008, 15:22:41 UTC
I just sent them an email to (very politely) complain how my historical western about two men in a committed relationship should not have to be lumped under GLBT *or* under "just" History. It's a historical romance, dammit! Why are you being so narrow in your definition! Etc.

Not that I plan to enter, or ever wanted to. But this kind of attitude totally grates my nerves.

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gehayi September 15 2008, 15:25:54 UTC
Mine too. A book should be classed by genre--not by genitalia. Why is it so important to EPIC to shove the gay in a corner?

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scrollgirl September 15 2008, 19:44:35 UTC
I just got this reply back from Carol MacLeod, president:
Frankly, until this year, Ms, [Scroll], it has never been a problem.

You could enter your book into one of the Historical categories which would be taking a chance that someone will think it's in the wrong category. You're only two choices would be to enter it in the GLBT category or one of the historical categories, knowing the chance you take.

We have had past finalists in the GLBT category from the historic genres.

Unfortunately, we can't go back and change the rules this year. BUT we can note your concern and file your email for next year when we again define the EPPIE categories.

Thanks for letting us know your concern. We take seriously every complaint in regards to the EPPIE contest.

Carol MacLeod
EPIC President

I guess we'll see. The 2009 categories still define historical romance (and all other romances, eg contemporary, fantasy, even horror) as het only. Grrr.

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erastes September 15 2008, 15:54:58 UTC
Historical gay western? *perks up*

Do we know about this? Is scrollgirl a penname for someone I already know or is there a new book we should be adding to Speak Its Name?

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2009 Eppies URL anonymous September 15 2008, 16:42:38 UTC
Geyahi

The 2008 eppies were for material published *approximately* oct 06 to sept 07. The 2009 eppies are for material "released for sale between October 1, 2007 and September 30, 2008." Your link is to the 2008 eppies, and while mostly the same, there are some refinements to the categories for the 2009 eppies. 2009 Category Descriptions are here:

http://www.epicauthors.com/eppiecatagories2009.html

If people start from the EPPIES homepage, they'll get all the 2009 links

http://www.epicauthors.com/eppies.html

There is still a lot to complain about, though :-)

AV

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Re: 2009 Eppies URL gehayi September 15 2008, 17:29:01 UTC
Ah, thank you. I'll check the updated versions. They still seem like pretty horrible definitions for any year. I'm amazed no one raised hell about them.

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kippurbird September 15 2008, 17:16:10 UTC
*clicks on the little black dragon*

*mentally reviews characters in novels currently in relationships*

Let's see, one single mother who's never been married
a pair of male teenagers in a somewhat serious relationship, another pair of men who are practically married except for the fact that one is a king and needs to marry a woman, another pair in a slave/master relationship, a teenage girl who'll have sex with anyone, a young adult male who's kinda asexual (he'd rather tinker than have a relationship), several loving heterosexual couples. No actual on screen sex. Lots of magic.

I fail to see any erotica here.

EPIC fails.

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lee_rowan September 15 2008, 20:12:39 UTC
I looked at the rules from the Epic link posted a couple of days ago on the Epic list. I'd already committed to judge in this year's competition, but I've pulled out of all categories except glbt.

It may seem contradictory since one of my books won the first GLBT Eppie, but as a historical it was competing with a lot of other good stories, and the m/m relationship was the only thing they had in common.

Epic's organizers have a tough set of choices to make, and the voices of homophobia are quite shrill and vindictively persistent. It always amazes me that people can be so utterly certain that they know God's will when odds are they don't even know the airspeed of a laden swallow.

Ah, well.

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