The Knight is Darkest...

Dec 10, 2008 04:49

So, I have The Dark Knight in my hot little hands. So, after I slept the entire day away (these ten hours shifts will be the death of me *whimpers*), I simply had to sit down with my hot chocolate and pop it in. It was just as good as in the theater. While I still have fond childhood memories of the original, goofy Adam West Batman, I enjoy and ( Read more... )

dc-verse, batman, feminism, batman-begins, film, politics

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minttown1 December 10 2008, 15:01:40 UTC
I'd say it's a legitimate complaint. My only addition is that, rather than the obvious idea of sexism, it could have simply been Nolan's snobbery about many aspects of the Batman story. He's already said he'd never use Robin in a movie, presumably because Robin's too campy or somesuch. I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to distance himself from Batgirl, too.

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garnettrees December 21 2008, 09:34:53 UTC
My only addition is that, rather than the obvious idea of sexism, it could have simply been Nolan's snobbery about many aspects of the Batman story.
See, I hadn't heard about that quote-- now there are some obvious omissions that make more sense. Still, I think Nolan is really cutting off his nose despite his face. I adore Robin-- especially Richard Grayson. In his desire to make a dark-and-real Batman, Nolan is missing out on a really wonderful character.
Men. *rolls eyes*
-Meredith

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ladyaeryn December 10 2008, 16:34:36 UTC
The portrayal of female characters is probably my most significant complaint about the Nolan Batman flicks, which I otherwise love.

Rachel doesn't actively annoy me like other 'damsels;' I can understand Bruce's fixation on her, with their childhood emotional connection, and I actually thought the Bruce/Rachel/Harvey triangle was pretty well handled. But she's still little more than a plot device to motivate the male characters. Which is at least more than I can say for the likes of a certain Weasley damsel. She doesn't serve any other purpose, or have her own journey like Bruce or Harvey. Hell, even the lady cop who betrayed Rachel, who got maybe five minutes of screentime, had more of a personal agenda than she did ( ... )

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garnettrees December 21 2008, 09:42:52 UTC
The portrayal of female characters is probably my most significant complaint about the Nolan Batman flicks, which I otherwise love.
You said it, and so eloquently, too. I loved Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, but I was jarred more than one from their storylines because they take place in a distressingly all-male world. There are no 'real', flesh-and-bone female characters. Maybe that sort of skew is believable for guys, but it stretches my suspension of disbelief. *shrugs*

Which is at least more than I can say for the likes of a certain Weasley damsel.
Aeryn, what on earth are you doing in my brain? I can't tell you how violently I agree with this.

If you're going to make SW/Gotham comparisons, then the Joker would be more Palpatine, who George didn't give a backstory to, and Anakin would be more Harvey/Two-Face.Wow, Nolan really doesn't 'get' it. A backstory for Vader is no more a weakness than his eventual redemption-- in fact, it is the rosetta stone that makes his fall and return to grace comprehensible. The Joker is ( ... )

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moonspinner December 10 2008, 20:09:10 UTC
Well if you're too picky so am I because I had the exact same reaction. I'm actually suprised that so few comic book fans picked up on that when they watched the movie.

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garnettrees December 21 2008, 09:43:51 UTC
Ah, reading your entry made me feel so much better. I was overjoyed to find a link to the article about the 'Mo Measure' test, as well!
-Meredith

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