Episodes 2x09 to 2x12 [City of Stone: Present Day]

[atraphoenix]

I apologise for the delay in getting this posted. I’m sure it’ll be worth the wait, though. silverspidertm2 led you in the discussion of the City of Stone flashbacks at the beginning of the week - the post I still open if you’ve got anything else to add - and now it’s time to take a look at the present day portion of the story

Comments

[atraphoenix]

Yes, it was definitely a great sinister moment. When we’ve seen the entire city affected in the past - in The Mirror, for example - it’s always been fairly light.

I couldn’t either. Maybe he was so desperate to end it that he’d take any advantage over Demona that he could find?

I’ve never looked at it like that before. Possibly because of her continued denial out loud. Even if she accepted that it was - on some level, if not entirely - her fault, she’d have difficulty admitting it to anyone else.

Heh, really? I’ve not actually seen the commentary. I own the DVDs, but I have to borrow my parent’s multiregional DVD player - currently a few hundred miles away from me - to watch them.

I didn’t either, partly because I couldn’t imagine why they’d set up such an elaborate plan - nine centuries of waiting! - without wanting something very big in return. I always expected to see them return again, though I couldn’t, at the time, imagine why. That’s definitely a question that still sticks for me. More than what we see in Avalon, probably

[gentle_john]

I think that Macbeth was able to put on the mask because he hated himself. It seems like Macbeth takes the blame for everything on himself just as Demona blames everyone but herself. To Macbeth the hunter may have been the one to kill those closest to him, but they would have been safe had he not been close to them.

[atraphoenix]

Ooh, that has definitely never occurred to me. A great interpretation!

[tobimonkee]

i liked the call backs to the other episodes both with the turning to stone in the middle of an argument and useing modern tech for the loop hole of a magic spell again since that is a recurring theme

Robbins was great for the exposition with a loop hole of his own and its cool for there to be other human allies less stress for Elisa

i thought the wierd sisters were cool and liked all thier difrent versions but they definitly had thier own agenda

[atraphoenix]

I think the bit where they turned to stone during the argument was my favourite, purely because of the comedy value of it.

The best bit about the Weird Sisters, in my opinion, was that we didn't get to see the agenda. It was there - really, unless you wanted to think that they were entirely and unselfishly benevolent, it had to be there - but, because of the pacing and excitement of the episode, there wasn't much time to work out what their motive was. It makes their next appearance all the more interesting.

[purplegoldfish]

You definitely had the easy part, atraphoenix

[purplegoldfish]

That could be a factor, I suppose. I'm sure Goliath was more worried about the circumstances of the city, but those particular words he used must have hit a nerve with Macbeth, which were the same words that the Sisters fed him. Though I do find the "death never solves anything" speech kind of annoying and preachy. The death of one person could save the lives of a thousand others. If Demona were dead by this time in the series all those people she murdered would be alive, so technically the death of Demona would benefit the greater good.

[meb28]

The Sisters were creepy. "...written their stories..." like they know how everything is going to end? That was one weird thing. Another was the fact that they turned to stone? What the heck? Aren't they powerful enough to resist the spell? I did love the hints at Owen's other side. Demona's tears as she said the access still get to me. Basically because you know she doesn't have to be alone if she would only admit her part in all the crap that has happened to her and try(monumental effort required to stay sane I know) to move on. Macbeth as the Hunter I didn't expect the first time. Fox's disobedience should have come as no surprise to Xanatos but I did like how he talked to her after she's a statue. I liked the interaction between Bronx and Demona as well, it was kind of sweet in weird way. I think Macbeth's suicide attempt did throw Demona for a loop. She has her revenge to live for and can't understand why Macbeth wants to die. I've wondered if this is because she doesn't want to see the need for friendship or love mainly because

[unusualsidekick]

I personally love the line, "I hope tonight's quieter than last night." A great set-up line. The rest of them being creeped out by the silence later is a nice contrast. And can you imagine? New York City gone totally silent? Eek!!!

I also agree that the ending of the first episode was great; and that there isn't really a lead-up to Elisa turning to stone; they just find her there. Well paced.

I really liked their take on "you have to see and hear magic." It's not particularly original, I know, but this was the first place I had seen that idea played out and I thought it was brilliant. Still do. It makes the concept of magic more real, more tangible.

What's curious to me about the reference to Castle Wyvern is the perspective between Demona and the rest of the clan; for them, it was fairly recent, since they only awoke so many months ago, whereas for Demona, it's been far longer. She probably remembers it like it was yesterday (hence her desire to act out this revenge all these centuries later), but I imagine that the pain of it,