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towards kids? evirustheslaye August 17 2005, 23:46:32 UTC
how exactly are these games marketed to kids its only once in a greate while that i see videogame commercials on tv and even then they show the games esrb rating after and i think maybe before the actual commercial.... what more do they want?

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Re: towards kids? toshirotzu August 18 2005, 00:18:54 UTC
Some of them, if not most show the rating before and after the commercial as well as claim "This game is rated X for X" so not only is there a visual warning there's also an auditory warning. It's been awhile since I last heard a movie trailer say "This movie is rated R" and they always have the rating at the bottom of the screen in small print, in comparison to video games where the rating has it's own shot right in the middle of the screen in large print. Any parent who misses the rating isn't paying attention. Not to mention the rating's on the front and back of the boxes the games come in.

Anywho, "advertising to children" seems to mean showing a commercial on TV regardless of when and which station it's on.

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There is one thing i agree with them on .... anonymous August 18 2005, 00:51:39 UTC
Teach media literacy to children so they will have the ability to critically evaluate interactive media.

Sounds better then just shielding their eyes from everything negative. Teach kids why they shouldn't take the content they see in entertainment media so seriously and teach them why they shouldn't emulate it and there'd be no problems. Education is the key, not censorship.

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horrorkid64 August 18 2005, 00:53:05 UTC
"In fact, just this week, a researcher at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign released the first long-term study on the effects of playing violent online video games and found that they do not cause any substantial real-world aggression. Nary a word of it is mentioned by the APA..."

This is interesting, because the study Mr. Lowenstein is refering to can hardly be called "long term". The German psychologist Maria von Salisch studied the effects of violent video games on children for a whole year (which is what I would call long term).

Results: no change in aggressive behavior of the children.

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horrorkid64 August 18 2005, 00:54:45 UTC
Cool. Do you have a link to that study?

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horrorkid64 August 18 2005, 01:04:39 UTC
Sadly, no. I've searched for an online version of that study, but have not found anything yet.

It was reported in the German newspaper "Die Zeit" about 4 or 5 months ago.

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horrorkid64 August 18 2005, 01:11:10 UTC
Well, if you do find a link to it, post it up. It'll probably be in German but i can always use an online translator to translate it.

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anonymous August 18 2005, 01:05:31 UTC
Well, whatever the case, I can name one thing that will cause violence without fail. Giving problem kids an implied get-out-of-jail-free card by blaming games. As the witch hunt on games continues, I'd bet money there will be at least a few cases where some punk kid somewhere starts a fight or whatever just because he thinks he'll be able to get away with it by saying "but the game made me do it!" Bad kids don't need something to make them bad. They just need a good excuse. Or, any excuse for that matter. Thank you APA, Jack Thompson, et al, for giving kids the Holy Grail of excuses.

One would think psychologists of all people would think of this...

-illspirit

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*sigh* anonymous August 18 2005, 01:26:31 UTC
When Thompson reads the press release, we'll never hear the end of it.

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Re: *sigh* anonymous August 18 2005, 01:30:45 UTC
Jack posted that press release twice on an earlier thread, probably while wearing a shit-eating grin on his face.

Funny thing about Jack, though. For an ultra-conservative, he sure has a very liberal view of both violence and of cause and effect.

== BearDogg-X ==

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