Well, heres my takeyukimurasanadaSeptember 15 2006, 11:15:49 UTC
I like the idea of a comprehensive research act that will really get down and answer some questions, but I for one hope the entertainment industries try to force this to be done by a none bias, thrid party group and not a hand picked government lacky group looking for a buck. IF the industry does not push for a certain level of fairness and objectivty in this research, it's basicly letting Censorcrat fear mongers bribe researchers into saying what they want to hear.
Hopefully the ESA and others will put some pressure on this to make sure it's fair and just, or gets it' quashed alltogether.
Re: Well, heres my takegamepoliticsSeptember 15 2006, 12:37:23 UTC
LJ switched to a new back-end sometime yesterday and I can't easily select text, either.
Thought it was just me, but... Anyway, this works until they fix it: put your cursor at the beginning of the block (well, click there, anyway, you probably won't see your cursor) then hold SHIFT and click at the end of the block of text you want. That seems to work for me.
Re: With Liberman and Clinton on board CARMA.terminator44September 15 2006, 20:36:44 UTC
But not incorruptible. Hilary and Joe have an obvious motivation to get CDC to focus on the video game angle. I wouldn't put it past them to lean on the CDC to get what they want.
Re: With Liberman and Clinton on board CARMA.aerothornSeptember 15 2006, 23:18:26 UTC
Possibly, but in the past these studies have often no resulted in what the founders wanted. When the federal government did that study of pornography, for instance (I think they might have done two - one in the 70s and one recently) the goal of the senators who pushed it was to try and get pornography revealed as the corrupting influence it really was...and then the result of the study was that there was no evidence that pornography led to sex crimes or anything else.
We have gamers and the industry on one side and fear-mongering politicians on the other.. Why isn't someone standing up for games and gamers?
I'd like to see a public service announcement wherein an old cowboy type sits America down and explains a few salient points, in a real grandaddy layin-down-the-law kinda way.
"You know folks, before video games were invented, we had a little thing called the second world war. It's a long story, but basically this guy called Hitler - who had never played a video game in his life - wanted to kill every last Jew on the planet. Well, there was a lot of hootin and hollerin, a lot of people were killed and the whole thing was quite violent. Now, you may be surprised to hear it, but no-one there had played video games! Not even Goebbels!"
I do have a problem with thisblitzfitnessSeptember 15 2006, 13:09:55 UTC
The CDC used to be an ally of the personal training and fitness community, but about 2 or 3 years ago they stopped listening to us and have come up with some bizarre research methods and campaigns. Probably the most significant to the nation as a whole was replaceing the original Food Pyramid with a new Quote Improved Unquote multi pyramid system. I was one of the people on board to stop the change, our primary concern being it would add confusion to a well known system that American's didn't do a proper job of following to begin with, and that money would be best spent elsewhere before revamping the pyramid. Obviously, that didn't work, and now we have a new pyramid system that people don't use.
And for the Game Politics crowd, I'm sure they will remember that the CDC already has a side regarding videogames. If anyone remembers the dirty, broken-down fields, etc., images that they created about a year ago.
Add in the fact that the primary backing of the named senators, and I'm going to have to nod my head to the ACLU's
Re: I do have a problem with thisblitzfitnessSeptember 15 2006, 15:26:21 UTC
Hmm, if it did, it fooled a lot more people than I would have thought. After you reported it on your site I had a convention to go to and saw somebody (NOT a rep from CDC, though) with those images on the background. When I saw that I had assumed it was really a campaign for them.
Before the talk, John Anderton told me that the CDC had nothing to do with this campaign at all (he'd recently left a comment to this effect on the original thread). Apparently someone ripped off the CDC logo and put it on these ads. Weirdly, the ads do seem to trace back to ad agency Saatchi & Saatchi, who apprently did run a $125 million PR campaign for the CDC. That was back in 2002, so maybe someone took their lead and ran with it.
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Hopefully the ESA and others will put some pressure on this to make sure it's fair and just, or gets it' quashed alltogether.
We'll see.
BTW, dennis, I found this on the FLA bar website.
http://www.floridabar.org/TFB/TFBCon...6?OpenDocument
Is that the document you used to file your complaint?
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Thought it was just me, but... Anyway, this works until they fix it: put your cursor at the beginning of the block (well, click there, anyway, you probably won't see your cursor) then hold SHIFT and click at the end of the block of text you want. That seems to work for me.
LiveJournal... grrrrr....
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I'd like to see a public service announcement wherein an old cowboy type sits America down and explains a few salient points, in a real grandaddy layin-down-the-law kinda way.
"You know folks, before video games were invented, we had a little thing called the second world war. It's a long story, but basically this guy called Hitler - who had never played a video game in his life - wanted to kill every last Jew on the planet. Well, there was a lot of hootin and hollerin, a lot of people were killed and the whole thing was quite violent. Now, you may be surprised to hear it, but no-one there had played video games! Not even Goebbels!"
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And for the Game Politics crowd, I'm sure they will remember that the CDC already has a side regarding videogames. If anyone remembers the dirty, broken-down fields, etc., images that they created about a year ago.
Add in the fact that the primary backing of the named senators, and I'm going to have to nod my head to the ACLU's
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Supposedly
http://www.watercoolergames.org/archives/000582.shtml
Before the talk, John Anderton told me that the CDC had nothing to do with this campaign at all (he'd recently left a comment to this effect on the original thread). Apparently someone ripped off the CDC logo and put it on these ads. Weirdly, the ads do seem to trace back to ad agency Saatchi & Saatchi, who apprently did run a $125 million PR campaign for the CDC. That was back in 2002, so maybe someone took their lead and ran with it.
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