Roy Burrell continues to prove that he's an idiotbeardoggxAugust 26 2006, 15:50:35 UTC
If you can train a military-type person using these video games, you can do it to kids,"
Uh, no.
From ABC News' John Stossel's book Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity on GP May 17th:
"Even the Surgeon General's Office told us, 'The Marines use the game Doom to desensitize recruits.' Where did they learn that? From Grossman. We called the Marines, They said (Doom) is not used to desensitize Marines, They say they used a version of the software to teach eye/hand coordination and teamwork. Period."
Roy Burrell needs to do his research instead of brownnosing Jacky Boy.
Re: Roy Burrell continues to prove that he's an idiotgabrielcelestaAugust 26 2006, 19:53:49 UTC
You know what? That reminds me...
To the guy who's posted that one excerpt from a FAQ of America's Army a couple times, I think it wouldn't hurt to display it again. It's just another bit of info Burrell should've read.
Re: Roy Burrell continues to prove that he's an idiotzippydsmleeAugust 27 2006, 06:23:20 UTC
Acualty the army/marines/airforce use alot of video game like stuff to teach and train from situational training sims to flight sims and other things,however these are far from "normal" video games ,they do use some "normal" type videogames for honeing team work and such.
the problem with myths is they need to be busted >< and poltiions are to cheap to use anythign else...
..."I recognize that the First Amendment right is a strong issue. But there are a lot of things that have changed in what should be considered free speech."...
Typical politican, Free Speech should only apply to things that follow their perticular viewpoints (this applies to both liberals and conservatives, republicans and democrats.) or the soccer moms and moralist prudes who you try to gain votes from by passing laws like this. The fact of the matter is the Free Speech clause in the First Amendment is there to protect the minority viewpoints and ideas from the tyranny of the majority who find them offensive, inapproriate or contrary to their own views.
I hope I can get a lot of GP readers thoughts on this:
After hearing these quotes (as well as other quotes over the past two years), I can't come to a decision about which reality is more frightening; A) That the people in power in this country believe videogames are as evil as they are fighting for the nation to believe, or B) that they are spreading this message despite having a lack of faith behind their own words.
My views on this whole thingzero_beat_xAugust 26 2006, 21:30:52 UTC
For Louisiana, this will mean that they will have spent money on a failed measure when the money could've easily gone towards reconstruction or schools or housing - anything to return a sense of things being normal.
The ESA won't come out of this unscathed, either. I'm not a psychic, but I believe there is, at the minimum, a 90% chance of the ESA donating at least most of the money they are reimbursed in court costs, legal fees and anything else that can be attributed to this case (plane tickets if applicable, some gas, a few meals) to a fund that will spend the money on what the state legislature should have been spending it on. Sure, the ESA will get some good PR, but the only people that will hear it are us gamers, and we are already more or less satisfied with the ESA. Sure, a few things could be done better, but overall they are doing what they need to do.
"If the law is eventually thrown out, Burrell said he hopes "it would raise the consciousness these companies that they would want to keep these videos out of the hands of children. It would be total injustice that they would let profits triumph over doing what is right.""
Absolutely, kind of like how some politicians allow taxpayer money to be wasted on baseless laws so they can garner more votes. Oh, and your "law" IS going down like the Hindenburg, there're no ifs about it.
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Uh, no.
From ABC News' John Stossel's book Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity on GP May 17th:
"Even the Surgeon General's Office told us, 'The Marines use the game Doom to desensitize recruits.' Where did they learn that? From Grossman. We called the Marines, They said (Doom) is not used to desensitize Marines, They say they used a version of the software to teach eye/hand coordination and teamwork. Period."
Roy Burrell needs to do his research instead of brownnosing Jacky Boy.
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To the guy who's posted that one excerpt from a FAQ of America's Army a couple times, I think it wouldn't hurt to display it again. It's just another bit of info Burrell should've read.
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the problem with myths is they need to be busted ><
and poltiions are to cheap to use anythign else...
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Typical politican, Free Speech should only apply to things that follow their perticular viewpoints (this applies to both liberals and conservatives, republicans and democrats.) or the soccer moms and moralist prudes who you try to gain votes from by passing laws like this. The fact of the matter is the Free Speech clause in the First Amendment is there to protect the minority viewpoints and ideas from the tyranny of the majority who find them offensive, inapproriate or contrary to their own views.
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After hearing these quotes (as well as other quotes over the past two years), I can't come to a decision about which reality is more frightening; A) That the people in power in this country believe videogames are as evil as they are fighting for the nation to believe, or B) that they are spreading this message despite having a lack of faith behind their own words.
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The ESA won't come out of this unscathed, either. I'm not a psychic, but I believe there is, at the minimum, a 90% chance of the ESA donating at least most of the money they are reimbursed in court costs, legal fees and anything else that can be attributed to this case (plane tickets if applicable, some gas, a few meals) to a fund that will spend the money on what the state legislature should have been spending it on. Sure, the ESA will get some good PR, but the only people that will hear it are us gamers, and we are already more or less satisfied with the ESA. Sure, a few things could be done better, but overall they are doing what they need to do.
No one wins this one.
*Steps off soapbox.*
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Absolutely, kind of like how some politicians allow taxpayer money to be wasted on baseless laws so they can garner more votes. Oh, and your "law" IS going down like the Hindenburg, there're no ifs about it.
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