He loads the game and select start match = he is playing the game
if he wanted to make a real stand he would be in front of the recruiting office and not in the game. Yes the army uses this tool to see if you want to shoot a gun in real life. However a true human with any street smarts doesn't make a decision to join the military based off a game.
No, this is not an Army tool to see if you want to shoot a gun in real life. You've been listening to Dave Grossman too much.
This is a game, given away to enhance recruiting. It is marketing the Army as much as the "Be all that you can be" and "An Army of One" T.V. ad campaigns were...
Agreed. However, I think it's least successful in glorifying the armed services. I would think that games like Call of Duty and many of the Tom Clancy titles do a better job at that.
Re: Not supporting the troopsturbinerocksMay 16 2006, 19:06:40 UTC
It's actually an unusual and interesting protest. Because here we are talking about it. I wouldn't have thought of such a thing. You don't need to go out and wave around a picket sign in a crowd to protest anymore. In fact, that's probably a terrible way to go about it. Ask any protester (we have many many protesters in Oregon) how often their actions are ignored by the mainstream media. The way to effectively protest is to capture peoples' attention. It's like marketing, the target changes, the idea has to be fresh and new.
Hmm... the guy's cause is noble, but I can't help but think that he's just being annoying here. I mean, I've toyed with the idea of playing America's Army just because it's free, but spamming me with an online memorial isn't going to help anything -- I'm not even American.
If this guy keeps taking up space in matches and spamming everyone with anti-war propaganda, he's going to make a lot of enemies. Pissing off potential supporters isn't a good way to stop a war.
I am the one creating this work. I appreciate your discussion. Yes, the work is an absurd action - one voice among thousands playing this "game" with an audience of maybe 12 at a time. Yet as the word of my activities is getting out there it is causing people to stop and perhaps just briefly consider the connection between an online, escapist moment and the very real death and carnage going on in our name in Iraq
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Re: dead-in-iraqnightwng2000May 16 2006, 22:38:02 UTC
"Yet as the word of my activities is getting out there it is causing people to stop and perhaps just briefly consider..."
And that's precisely what protesting, of any kind, is all about.
Dennis, if you're reading this (screening is on, so, duh, you most likely are, in part anyway), I'm seeing a build up of names to vote on at the end of the year. At the least, a fair number of write-ins, if not actually included in the poll.
More and more folks are using mods to make statements. Whether the war in Iraq or the general disposition of the game industry itself (the Oblivion mod).
Thanks for your response at least...tweek_20kMay 17 2006, 02:59:27 UTC
You should still know, however, that your protest/memorial (aside from the usual flaws in associating soldier fatalities with an antiwar protest) is taking up valuable team slot space - you're dead weight to your team and that will make them angry, as the objective of any game is to win
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If this guy were in my server, he would get banned. What this asswipe seems to not understand is that in AA every person counts on a team, and one person could make the difference. This hippy needs to stop taking up slots and get off our servers. IMHO that's the same as dumbass 12 year olds who mic spam on Xbox Live.
I support Bush, and if you don't like it, screw you :)
But anyway, I'm getting really sick of all this anti-war crap... it's an all-volunteer army. These guys wanted to go and were prepared to die. All the protest rallies in the world won't bring them back. I'm not strongly opinionated about whether or not we start pulling our troops out. But all this Bush-bashing is pointless and redundant.
Maybe the troops are "prepared to die," but that doesn't excuse the war. Their deaths are still rather pointless. They're fighting a war that has been proven to be based on false premises, in a desolate land halfway around the world. Besides, how about their loved ones back home? How many of them are "prepared" for someone they love to die?
"All the protest rallies in the world won't bring them back." True, but protests have a chance, however slight, in influencing decisions and making changes, such as bringing the troops home before anyone else is killed. Mr. DeLappe's protest could save lives, which is an admirable goal to me. How about you?
Just because they're prepared to die doesn't mean they HAVE to. You don't just send people to die because you can, and they're willing. I think it'd be nice to not die if I didn't have to.
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if he wanted to make a real stand he would be in front of the recruiting office and not in the game. Yes the army uses this tool to see if you want to shoot a gun in real life. However a true human with any street smarts doesn't make a decision to join the military based off a game.
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This is a game, given away to enhance recruiting. It is marketing the Army as much as the "Be all that you can be" and "An Army of One" T.V. ad campaigns were...
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If this guy keeps taking up space in matches and spamming everyone with anti-war propaganda, he's going to make a lot of enemies. Pissing off potential supporters isn't a good way to stop a war.
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And that's precisely what protesting, of any kind, is all about.
Dennis, if you're reading this (screening is on, so, duh, you most likely are, in part anyway), I'm seeing a build up of names to vote on at the end of the year. At the least, a fair number of write-ins, if not actually included in the poll.
More and more folks are using mods to make statements. Whether the war in Iraq or the general disposition of the game industry itself (the Oblivion mod).
Outstanding work, Joseph, out-bloody-standing. :)
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But anyway, I'm getting really sick of all this anti-war crap... it's an all-volunteer army. These guys wanted to go and were prepared to die. All the protest rallies in the world won't bring them back.
I'm not strongly opinionated about whether or not we start pulling our troops out. But all this Bush-bashing is pointless and redundant.
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"All the protest rallies in the world won't bring them back."
True, but protests have a chance, however slight, in influencing decisions and making changes, such as bringing the troops home before anyone else is killed. Mr. DeLappe's protest could save lives, which is an admirable goal to me. How about you?
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