I've seen worse done for Horror moviesyukimurasanadaApril 19 2006, 13:44:41 UTC
If anything , I think the AD is a brillant work, both Visually and in the context of the game. If that add were done for another game, then I might think it wrong or perhaps incorrect, but the Hitman series deals with a man whose primary job is to find, and execute specific targets. I fail to see how showing the aftermath of such an event, in relation to the game, is in anyway wrong
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Re: I've seen worse done for Horror moviestollwutigApril 19 2006, 15:02:30 UTC
Yuki has pretty much said here what I feel.
As for the whole promotes Rape thing, how? Her clothes are not torn, there are no signs, and its for HITMAN, hmm an Assasin generally doesn't take that much interest in his target, not to mention an Assasin would not leave such evidence a rape would leave. Also why is it anytime something like this is used it promotes violence against women. If they'd put a male Gigilo in the same or similar pose would this promote violence against men? or raise anywhere near this controversy?
Re: I've seen worse done for Horror moviesgatz111085April 19 2006, 15:16:12 UTC
exactly, I dont' see how it promotes rape. I guess from now on if there is a bed in a room and a dead woman not only does it promote violence against women, it promotes rape.
"Unfortunately the rest of the masses, and politicians looking for a rally cry, will focus solely on the image depicting the end results of a "BOOM! HEADSHOT!" while ignoring the play on words."
They'd be late too. The last Hitman game (or maybe even the one before that) used an ornate frame around a blood splatter complete with bits of goo. The caption was something about it being the hitman's art.
With all the controversy going on, what in the hell made them think they could get away with this ad unscathed? They're just asking for a Jack Thompsoning.
Re: Stupid EidosyukimurasanadaApril 19 2006, 13:54:23 UTC
I think your taking this to a non exsistanct conclusion Ad, but on the one hand, in the current political climate, it is a rather bold choice to do an ad like that. But, I'm glad, cause not doing something like that is caving in to outside pressure, which is just another Form of censorship. I for one thought the ad was well done and fit the theme extremely well.
Regardless, the industry has to stil to it's guns, if it allows people bully it in anyway, it will get walked on.
No, I say edios had every right to do this. Jack Thompson, as they say, can go F#%^ himself, all he and the rest of the world did was hand Eidos money when they moved against 25 to life.
If they are stupid enough to make a big deal out of this, then they hand Eidos more money.
Big freaking deal. We got them beat in court, so all there posturing is just that.
Re: Stupid EidosademiskApril 22 2006, 20:05:42 UTC
Obviously, which is exactly what I'm saying. This is gonna get some attention...though I suppose calling them stuipd was a bad idea, since...actually...this is a pretty good move. Damn, you're right.
Re: Stupid Eidosdutch_gamerApril 19 2006, 14:05:04 UTC
Why I am not surprised that this an ad from Eidos? First they come with a very lame rip off of GTA, namely 25 to life. They only sell some copies of the game because of controversy and now they make an ad that does the same thing for a different game of theirs. Eidos is just pouring more oil on the fire that is already burning.
I don't base my choice to buy a game with ads like this. I think Eidos is stupid for running this ad, cuz it's not the pic of a 1/4 naked woman with a bullet in her head that is gonna sell me this game. What is going to sell me this game is reviews and screenshots, and since I haven't played any of the other Hitman games, I don't plan to buy this one at all. Eidos, pull the ad, and don't ever put it up again, it's just a waste of money and paper.
First Rule of Advertising in entertainmentyukimurasanadaApril 19 2006, 14:02:55 UTC
Controversy Creates CASH!!!!
Sun, while I understand your concern, your wrong to say that Screen shots and reviews sell games. They has a small part. Advertising, box art, word of mouth. Thats what sells games. Controversy creates cash. It worked for GTA, God Of war, 25 to Life, you name it.
Now, I for one like the fact that the AD is aimed to evoke more mature style, and in the context of the Hitman series, it works extremely well. Your free to disagree, won't come down on you for it, but Eidos knows from experiance that any controversy this creates, is just gonna fuel sales.
The industry has been beating anti gamers for years now. I would like a more active approach, but for now, I think that sticking to it's guns and doing what it wants is the best thing for the industry. Free speech cuts both ways. Eidos has every right to run the ad, as you have every right to disapprove of it.
Actually, the first rule is:samaszeroApril 20 2006, 01:19:23 UTC
"Get their attention."
While yes, contraversey is great for attention(and this the origin of the saying: "There's no such thing as bad press"), the idea of the ad is to catch the reader's eye. First with the beautiful woman, and then holds it with the bullet hole in her head.
Wether it's contraversial or not, the ad is absolutely perfect for the tone of the Hitman series.
I have to agree with Dennis's comments in the ad. I am quite offended by this ad as well. It insinuates (ok, my spelling sucks, I admit that) that men get their jollies off on dead women. I much perfer my women alive, moving, and willing, thank you.
Besides, ads showing dead bodies does not make me want to buy games.
Actually i think Dennis was pointing out that the peice mentioned that men WOULD be turned on by this and was insulted by that, not the actual ad itself.
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As for the whole promotes Rape thing, how?
Her clothes are not torn, there are no signs, and its for HITMAN, hmm an Assasin generally doesn't take that much interest in his target, not to mention an Assasin would not leave such evidence a rape would leave.
Also why is it anytime something like this is used it promotes violence against women. If they'd put a male Gigilo in the same or similar pose would this promote violence against men? or raise anywhere near this controversy?
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I thought of one of my friends yelling that catchphrase as soon as I saw the ad. It gets old at times.
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They'd be late too. The last Hitman game (or maybe even the one before that) used an ornate frame around a blood splatter complete with bits of goo. The caption was something about it being the hitman's art.
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Regardless, the industry has to stil to it's guns, if it allows people bully it in anyway, it will get walked on.
No, I say edios had every right to do this. Jack Thompson, as they say, can go F#%^ himself, all he and the rest of the world did was hand Eidos money when they moved against 25 to life.
If they are stupid enough to make a big deal out of this, then they hand Eidos more money.
Big freaking deal. We got them beat in court, so all there posturing is just that.
Besides. Jacks Nuts, we all know it.
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Sun, while I understand your concern, your wrong to say that Screen shots and reviews sell games. They has a small part. Advertising, box art, word of mouth. Thats what sells games. Controversy creates cash. It worked for GTA, God Of war, 25 to Life, you name it.
Now, I for one like the fact that the AD is aimed to evoke more mature style, and in the context of the Hitman series, it works extremely well. Your free to disagree, won't come down on you for it, but Eidos knows from experiance that any controversy this creates, is just gonna fuel sales.
The industry has been beating anti gamers for years now. I would like a more active approach, but for now, I think that sticking to it's guns and doing what it wants is the best thing for the industry. Free speech cuts both ways. Eidos has every right to run the ad, as you have every right to disapprove of it.
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While yes, contraversey is great for attention(and this the origin of the saying: "There's no such thing as bad press"), the idea of the ad is to catch the reader's eye. First with the beautiful woman, and then holds it with the bullet hole in her head.
Wether it's contraversial or not, the ad is absolutely perfect for the tone of the Hitman series.
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Besides, ads showing dead bodies does not make me want to buy games.
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