Another Hammer murderer with multiple victims and no computer games.
I will try to find the correct address to contact to point out that simply because 1 murderer who used a Hammer had Manhunt proves absolutely nothing, as tragic as the Murder is.
"parents perceive age ratings as a guide but not as a definitive prohibition".
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This is not about adult censorship; it is about protecting our children. We need to act now before it is too late.
Ironic that in order to protect the children, GB finds it necessary to remove the children from the parental discretion. Will they also supply childcare on the government's bill, or will they simply take away all parental rights one by one?
It is, effectively, adult censorship.
It would seem that China is the New Role Model™ in which the government decides everything for the inhabitants.
Didn't the courts find that Manhunt WASN'T responsible for the Stefan Pakeerah? In fact, didn't they find that the game belonged to Stefan, rather than his murderer? And that the whole thing was over money or something stupid like that?
I don't see what's so wrong with forcing game companies to make better labelsskemodanMarch 2 2006, 15:34:10 UTC
Not that I think there's any problem with the ESRB, but just forcing them to make more informative ratings labels seems harmless to me. They aren't limiting the sale in any way, they're just enforcing a more harsh ratings system. All ratings systems are enforced by the law already...I think.
Re: I don't see what's so wrong with forcing game companies to make better labelsgalinMarch 2 2006, 16:18:23 UTC
More informative how? They already tell you in general terms why they got the rating "intense violence, strong language, blood, mature sexual themes" (from the Max Payne 2 box sitting next to me).
Should the rating tell exactly what is in the game? "800 incidents of gun violence". That is impossible due to the very nature of a game.
I don't know about the UK, but in the US there are no ratings systems that are enforced by law. And enforcing the ratings system DOES limit sales, as retailers will be less likely to carry M/AO rated games if they think they might possibly get fined for an accidental sale to a minor.
Re: I don't see what's so wrong with forcing game companies to make better labelscatch_33March 2 2006, 16:34:52 UTC
I don't know about the UK, but in the US there are no ratings systems that are enforced by law. And enforcing the ratings system DOES limit sales, as retailers will be less likely to carry M/AO rated games if they think they might possibly get fined for an accidental sale to a minor.
This is true.
Most politicians don't seem to be really aiming for this effect though. Most don't care if their measures get through. They just want to look good for having proposed them.
Re: I don't see what's so wrong with forcing game companies to make better labelstollwutigMarch 2 2006, 16:22:29 UTC
but just forcing them to make more informative ratings labels seems harmless to me
I don't either, how about forcing the MPAA and RIAA to do the same thing while you're at it. Oh wait thise 2 have sued the pants off every legislative body in the U.S that has tried, and their content descriptors are not even half of the ESRB or PEGI systems.
They aren't limiting the sale in any way, they're just enforcing a more harsh ratings system. All ratings systems are enforced by the law already...I think.
Maybe in the UK ratings are enforced, but not in the US. Again see the MPAA and RIAA.
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There were over half a million incidents of Domestic violence in the UK in 2002-3 and it is rising.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/09/20/1095532183569.html?from=storylhs
A Serial attacker who uses a Hammer and doesn't appear to play computer games. At least 6 attacks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/3674479.stm
Another Hammer murderer with multiple victims and no computer games.
I will try to find the correct address to contact to point out that simply because 1 murderer who used a Hammer had Manhunt proves absolutely nothing, as tragic as the Murder is.
(Good job I copied that lot ;) )
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This is not about adult censorship; it is about protecting our children. We need to act now before it is too late.
Ironic that in order to protect the children, GB finds it necessary to remove the children from the parental discretion. Will they also supply childcare on the government's bill, or will they simply take away all parental rights one by one?
It is, effectively, adult censorship.
It would seem that China is the New Role Model™ in which the government decides everything for the inhabitants.
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Should the rating tell exactly what is in the game? "800 incidents of gun violence". That is impossible due to the very nature of a game.
I don't know about the UK, but in the US there are no ratings systems that are enforced by law. And enforcing the ratings system DOES limit sales, as retailers will be less likely to carry M/AO rated games if they think they might possibly get fined for an accidental sale to a minor.
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This is true.
Most politicians don't seem to be really aiming for this effect though. Most don't care if their measures get through. They just want to look good for having proposed them.
I'm not sure if Vaz is one of them.
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I don't either, how about forcing the MPAA and RIAA to do the same thing while you're at it. Oh wait thise 2 have sued the pants off every legislative body in the U.S that has tried, and their content descriptors are not even half of the ESRB or PEGI systems.
They aren't limiting the sale in any way, they're just enforcing a more harsh ratings system. All ratings systems are enforced by the law already...I think.
Maybe in the UK ratings are enforced, but not in the US. Again see the MPAA and RIAA.
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