Comments | gabrus47: Post-5.11 Sam, Interrupted thoughts

gabrus47

Post-5.11 Sam, Interrupted thoughts

Jan 24, 2010 18:00

So, first of all, I'm not quite sure why this episode was called "Sam, Interrupted" when, for my money, it focused on Dean as much as Sam. But I came away from this not having learned anything new about either of the guys, nor seeing any resolution to the problems they face. Other than just about having a migraine from all the tossed-about ( Read more... )

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she_rockstar January 25 2010, 04:34:46 UTC

Isn't it pretty clear that this is the direction the show is headed?

It looks like so! And IA about the episode not focusing enough on Sam to be called Sam, Interrupted.

Some have opined that Sam's telling Dean he loves him was nothing more than a sarcastic, backhanded declaration that means nothing and that Sam basically called Dean a loser.

Oh, for the love of Yoda! How do you get this from that scene???

Watching this show has become somewhat of a chore,

Same here! I do it because the guys are great performers but I'm laboring to get through a single episode at this point. I hope Sam gets some justice as well, if not for Sam, they should do it for Jared Padalecki. The both deserve it.

partaymon5 January 25 2010, 06:05:04 UTC

"Oh, for the love of Yoda!"

Hee, I just had to say I loved that! And I agree... WTF fandom?? They've been begging and griping that Sam doesn't love Dean and when he actually comes out and says it: well now he didn't really MEAN it.. sheeesh!

she_rockstar January 27 2010, 05:36:24 UTC

Hee!

They've been begging and griping that Sam doesn't love Dean and when he actually comes out and says it: well now he didn't really MEAN it.. sheeesh!

It's incomprehensible to me! The textbook definition of a "no win" situation. This one I don't blame on the writers, some people will never accept Sam no matter what the heck he does and say. But still, this crap is ridiculous.

partaymon5 January 25 2010, 05:57:12 UTC

This is what I posted on my lj earlier and I think it says a lot of the same things that you have: disappointment and wondering what happened to those wonderful characters we first fell in love with 5 years ago. I'll have to post this in 2 parts... sorry for the long rant ( ... )

partaymon5 January 25 2010, 05:57:52 UTC

I will blame a LOT on the pathetic writing and direction. I'll blame even more on Kripke for taking the show this far and then seemingly deciding that sophomoric humour and sub par writing will carry the show through. This was supposed to be his last season and this is what he built up to?? Seriously? He's ret-conned so much about the characters, especially Sam, that the Sam Winchester of seasons 1 & 2 doesn't exist anymore. I expect growth in a character, otherwise why bother to write them for more than one season. What I don' t expect is for nearly everything that made that character likeable, believable and something unique to be totally thrown out the window in order for the show to go in a different direction...some of it dictated by fans. Dean/Jensen fans can disagree if they want, but the true fact is that Kripke checks into fan forums and notably one is very, very strongly Dean/Jensen oriented. I also believe, from all of Kripke's interviews, that he is a Jensen fanboy, and seems to prefer Jensen's acting to Jared's. ( ... )

sorry... 3 parts partaymon5 January 25 2010, 05:58:17 UTC

Now add all of the above to the fact that Kripke and the writers seem to have lost their way. They concentrate on one -shots with puerile humour as the selling point: Paris Hilton is a highlight, groin shots and crude comments, and whorehouses for angels are the mainstay. Or they go the opposite way and have so much heavy meta during the episode with the characters going over and over the same angsty points and then compound it by adding in fans. The whole apocalypse is a yawn fest: there is no tension, no sense of urgency, no real sense of fear at all. We have angels and demons who are almost indistinguishable from one another added into the confusing mix and more attention is paid to them than the main characters acting well: in character. Seriously, they have lost so many good writers and now rely on 'comic book' writers who have no sense of the characters, tv timing and pacing or subtlety at all. Kripke and Sera seem to be more interested in playing coy with reporters and interviewers and the fans, to spend the proper time ( ... )

Re: sorry... 3 parts she_rockstar January 27 2010, 05:48:22 UTC

I looked for LJ post but couldn't find it. I apologize for posting the reply here.

Well said! I especially agree with the boring, uneventful apocalypse, and the poor characterization and writing as a whole. They've made the show unrecognizable, and I'm not sure the realize that the bad humor and stilted episodes are a result of the shift in focus and narrative.

I'm not sure that the actors even care anymore

I get the same feeling that they're phoning it in, tired of the same routine -- rinse, wash and repeat. I loved JP's performance in Sam, Interrupted, but it's not like it used to be... Not as effortless and graceful, now the guys look lost and bored.

Re: sorry... 3 parts gabrus47 January 27 2010, 14:56:09 UTC

The boys looked really tired in this episode. I noticed in a couple of scenes that Jared had (what appeared to be) bags under his eyes and Jensen just looked sleep-deprived. Maybe they were made up to look that way for this episode, who knows. But I noticed that the makeup looked "caked on" in certain scenes. It makes me wonder if the entire staff is ready to wind things down.

That said, though, I think the boys are doing as great a job as they can given the material they have to work with. But yeah, it's not the same.