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[futuresoon]

So. Teen Wolf. Over the past year or so, I have seen it slowly infiltrate my friendslist and dashboard. I assumed it was a guilty pleasure. Something trashy but fun. Plus there seemed to be a lot of fic for one pairing, which, well, a good pairing can make anything entertaining. But lately I started hearing whispers about the show being kind of

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[majorenglishesq]

Yeaaaah.

I totally gave up and started watching it. It's so hopeful and sunny and open and funny in ways that Supernatural isn't right now that I just couldn't not fall in with both arms open. It's soooo lovely. I love my dark shit. I mean, I love things that are darker and nastier on so many real-world levels than SPN, but Teen Wolf is just so open and accepting and ALIVE right now. It's so perfectly clear that haters of it are haters because they straight-up haven't tried it or don't even like FUN. It's so *goddamn simple.*

I mean, I've only watched maybe seven episodes of actual show and been reading all the fic in the universe. And it's awesome. And it's even more awesome that if the main romantic leads in the story mean nothing to you it's not a problem (Scott & Al are lovely but they are every boringly perfect high school couple). And I mean EVERYTHING. Everything is lovely.

[futuresoon]

I find myself comparing Teen Wolf to SPN, too, and in a positive light; TW is much smaller-scale (even when things are bad they aren't all THE ENTIRE TOWN IS GOING TO DIE) and doesn't have nearly as much of a body count. It does get dark, especially in the second season, but even then you still have non-fucked-up friendships and the capability for happiness. (Unless you're Derek. In which case you're just kind of fucked.)

I do understand why some people wouldn't like the show--the first episode isn't all that great, and Scott/Allison is blah from the get-go--but honestly, once you watch more of it and notice all the little things that it does, it really stands out from the rest. You should catch up with it, then you will see first-hand! (Although you may be disappointed by the lack of Derek/Stiles interaction. Fandom does tend to overemphasize it when really there are only a few good scenes between them. The fic's still great, though.)

[htbthomas]

I love all of this about the show, though I am among a way-too-small number of fans who love both Scott and Allison, apart and together. There's no one I don't like, even though Sterek is not my OTP, I'd enjoy the plotlines if they came up. :)

[futuresoon]

Scott and Allison are fine as characters and once they stopped that whole "I can never tell her my secret!!!1" aspect of the relationship they started to bug me a lot less. There's just something refreshing about a TV romance that's both thoroughly requited and fairly honest. So yeah, I like'em just fine, they were just kind of annoying in the first season. But now they are better and everything is great! Okay, my love for Derek has actually lessened a bit now that he is making nonstop terrible decisions, so maybe Scott and Allison are somehow stealing from that, but still.

[htbthomas]

Good to hear! :)

What the two of them really do for me is fill that well-intentioned but awkward superhero with a bad-ass on their own merits significant other. So pretty much Peter/MJ or Gwen // Clark/Lois all over again. :D

[laura47]

SERIOUSLY????

i watched the pilot today. way more psyched now.

[futuresoon]

SERIOUSLY. This show and this cast and crew, I don't even. Watch the rest and slide into befuddled joy with the rest of us.

[manaie]

Aaaah. I've been watching Teen Wolf from the start, guiltily and never-gonna-admit-it from the start, but seeing how it's treated homosexuality, Danny, and the whole derek/stiles fandom, has really made me- idk- proud of the show? MY LITTLE BABY'S ALL GROWN UP.

It's still kind of ridiculous, but at the same time, it's so earnest and well-done ridiculous that I can't help but love it so.

[futuresoon]

I should not be saying 'sweet' in the context of a show where a family is burned alive and a girl is brainwashed into restoring a horrific villain and a mother commits suicide to uphold her principles, but--it is sweet, in its own ridiculous way. It is not often that you get to say you are straight-up proud of a show. Good on you, Teen Wolf! Literally no one expected this of you, which may not actually be a compliment, but still.

[taithe]

I'm actually still working on getting caught up, but yes, I love its representation of homosexuality. Danny's characterization is great, because he feels genuine, and not just some token gay dude with all the gay tropes thrown in.

The thing with the staff and creators being super supportive of the slash fanbase is so strange to me. This show isn't doing the "bromance but NO HOMO lol" thing that I've noticed in Western media, which is refreshing. Although I'm curious how on earth they'd make Sterek canon... (I do ship it, mostly because I think Derek is hilarious with Stiles and I love broody characters with deadpan wit.)

Do you have any recs for who to follow/read/etc. in TW fandom?

[futuresoon]

Danny has actual characteristics that don't relate to being gay! Who knew that was possible? I desperately want him to join the main cast, or at least discover what's going on; it is a crying shame that Jackson gets to know and he doesn't. How far are you? Danny does have more of a role in recent episodes, since the plot actually gives him something to do for once.

As for Derek/Stiles, here's a good analysis on why it has the potential to become canon, and here's a good post on how they could do it. There's lots of meta in this fandom, really, especially by the person who did the second one. Be wary of spoilers, though.

The AO3 is the place to go for fic, since from what I can tell everything gets crossposted there if it wasn't first put there to begin with. Fuck Yeah Stiles Derek is, predictably, a good Tumblr for the pairing, and F Yeah Teen Wolf Fanart is a good place for fanart (though it's mostly Derek/Stiles, as that's just what people tend to draw). gyzym just got into the fandom and is already pretty awesome, if you don't

[taithe]

I just finished S02 E07 so not too far behind. Totally agree that Danny should get more screen time. I'm not all that attached to Derek's new pack members tbh.

Read the first link and holy crap. I vaguely heard about the staff being supportive of Sterek but I had no idea it was to that extent. I've... never encountered this in a fandom before. Wow.

I'm not exactly "in" Avengers fandom, since I mostly read fancomics and watch the movies, but I recognize gyzym from Inception. Will look into her fics and more on AO3. :D Thanks for the tumblr recs btw.

[futuresoon]

I'd like to know more about Boyd, but Isaac and Erica are gonna have to work hard for my interest. I do like fics that emphasize pack, though, and if they were written recently then they do tend to include the newbies, but fortunately fandom does a better job of making Erica tolerable than the show does. *g*

I KNOW RIGHT. It's insane. Sometimes I wonder if this isn't all some sort of cosmic joke on fandom's expense.

gyzym's role in Avengers fandom is mostly for meta and other excited ramblings (she has a whole series of superfamily stories that are written entirely in "so this happens" fashion), so I'm thrilled to see she's actually doing some proper ficcage for Teen Wolf. :D