The book is really excellent - I read it a couple of weeks ago, and it is uplifting, in the sense that it shows what can happen when you find your passion. REALLY find your passion.
and have told Will he's not allowed to, either I dont know who this is, but you are a hypocrite.! And JULIE has admitted to being verbally abusive to her husband and a cheater. She got royalties and shit from the movie. But she's a women, it's ok, right?
Sorry, you put things out in public, and people WILL comment. Hope next time you remember to friends lock! And maybe loosen up on Will?
Alright, since you don't know me, my husband, my journal, or, well, anything that goes on here, I'm not going to take offence at this. Because if you did know me, you'd know that Will - that's my husband, btw - hates Twilight even more than I do. (Did you skip that part where he's proud of my stance on it? He thinks it's fantastic and brags about it to his friends and co-workers!)
I haven't read Julie & Julia, only watched the movie. (Again, I stated that I want to read it, not that I have.) The film doesn't convey verbal abuse, or cheating. I certainly do not think that it's okay, for men or women to treat their partners that way. But if Julie admits that she was in the wrong? That automatically puts it in a different category, since Twilight never, ever makes that concession. In fact, it holds the abuse up as healthy and normal, hence my issues with it
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Women are not just mindless breeding stock. Bella makes her own choices, and in the end she actually turns out to be the real heroine of the story. She's not just the love interest of Edward and Jacob and she's certainly not mindless.
Yes, for a lot of the fans Twilight is a way of life, but that's the way all fandoms are for their members. There are excellent characters in the books and the story is well told. It has a lot to say about the strength of family, as well as about people finding strength within themselves, utilizing the gifts they were born with and reaching their full potential.
I could be wrong, but to me you sound like an angry extreme feminist who's only seen the movie previews and knows little about the real story.
I have read all the books, and I did so voraciously. While I was reading them, I couldn't put them down! It was only when I finished and took the time to reflect on what I'd just read that I realised how wrong it was. I don't know that I want to get into a full on debate right here, especially as I don't have the books in front of me to back up my arguments with in-text examples, but I will say this: What I read was not a strong young woman making her own decisions in life. I saw a young woman who, like a lot of women her age, wanted to make her own decisions, who tried to learn from what she considered to be the mistakes of people around her. But when she tried to assert herself, to live by those decisions, her significant other bulldozed right over them. (Marriage and having a child are two examples I can think of off the top of my head, but there was also the question of attending college, and I'm sure if I went back and re-read I could find a dozen more.)
I'm certainly by no means an "angry extreme feminist". If a woman
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I have some experience with emotionally screwed up relationships, myself, so I know that it's not the way to 'happily ever after'. The idea of this being put forward as a healthy, romantic relationship, the idea of more women and girls accepting that, or even - god forbid! - seeking that out in their relationships? It terrifies me!
I agree with the Twilight thing - I stupidly bought the first two books to read because I'd heard everyone raving over them and regret it now. I couldn't actually finish the second book as it was just so BAD and I completely agree with the whole idea of unhealthy relationships being "romanticised". The whole creepy, obsessive, needy, dependent, generally intensely fucked-up nature of the Edward/Bella thing is made out to be the ideal for which all girls should be striving. Horrible
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You wised up to it quicker than I did, I'm sorry to say. I read all of the books, and didn't catch on til I'd finished. (There's some sort of brainwashing at play there, I just know it!) I did not, however, buy any of them. So at least there's that. :p
Bella and Jacob, at first, I thought could be actually sane. Then I found out it was all because of her uterus and was beyond squicked. It was so disturbing!
Way to make a generation of young girls spend their lives rejecting normal relationships in favour of nasty, toxic messed up ones, Ms Meyer . . . This terrifies me. The concept chills me to the bone; it gives me actual goosebumps! I can't even express, in words, how afraid I am of exactly this. Maybe because my baby sister is so enamoured of the series. Maybe because so many people seem blind to this major issue. I don't know, but I am so very afraid of that being thought of as 'the norm' by so many young women. (And if their mothers are some of those you mentioned, like in the mag, will they know to tell their
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and have told Will he's not allowed to, either I dont know who this is, but you are a hypocrite.!
And JULIE has admitted to being verbally abusive to her husband and a cheater. She got royalties and shit from the movie. But she's a women, it's ok, right?
Sorry, you put things out in public, and people WILL comment.
Hope next time you remember to friends lock! And maybe loosen up on Will?
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I haven't read Julie & Julia, only watched the movie. (Again, I stated that I want to read it, not that I have.) The film doesn't convey verbal abuse, or cheating. I certainly do not think that it's okay, for men or women to treat their partners that way. But if Julie admits that she was in the wrong? That automatically puts it in a different category, since Twilight never, ever makes that concession. In fact, it holds the abuse up as healthy and normal, hence my issues with it ( ... )
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Women are not just mindless breeding stock. Bella makes her own choices, and in the end she actually turns out to be the real heroine of the story. She's not just the love interest of Edward and Jacob and she's certainly not mindless.
Yes, for a lot of the fans Twilight is a way of life, but that's the way all fandoms are for their members. There are excellent characters in the books and the story is well told. It has a lot to say about the strength of family, as well as about people finding strength within themselves, utilizing the gifts they were born with and reaching their full potential.
I could be wrong, but to me you sound like an angry extreme feminist who's only seen the movie previews and knows little about the real story.
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Bella and Jacob, at first, I thought could be actually sane. Then I found out it was all because of her uterus and was beyond squicked. It was so disturbing!
Way to make a generation of young girls spend their lives rejecting normal relationships in favour of nasty, toxic messed up ones, Ms Meyer . . .
This terrifies me. The concept chills me to the bone; it gives me actual goosebumps! I can't even express, in words, how afraid I am of exactly this. Maybe because my baby sister is so enamoured of the series. Maybe because so many people seem blind to this major issue. I don't know, but I am so very afraid of that being thought of as 'the norm' by so many young women. (And if their mothers are some of those you mentioned, like in the mag, will they know to tell their ( ... )
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