A week of finales

[frenchani]

What am I going to watch now that Dollhouse and Lost are over? There's still Ashes to ashes but brit series are very short and we're nearing towards the end...

Comments

[sister_luck]

I agree with most of what you're saying. With Omega's lair the idea was good, but the execution could have been better. It could have done with a little less camp, but on the other hand it goes with the mad-scientist-scenario. The pseudo-philosophical stuff Omega was spouting was a bit silly, but again, it's exactly what this sort of character would do - in that respect he's like an advanced Warren of nerd-trio fame. I quite liked Echo in these scenes - laughed heartily at her dig at Germans in response to Omega name-checking Nietzsche and yeah, the Obama line? It's something that Caroline-in-Wendy would respond to.

I'm with you on the nature-nurture thing. It's a little dangerous...

I've got a slightly different reading of Paul saving Mellie: Yes, he wakes up one of the princesses, and not the one we expect. First, I was really proud of him, but then I realized that this means that he gets to stay close to Caroline/Echo. Is it really a sacrifice?

[frenchani]

You know, I'm afraid that Caroline/Echo/Omega are the least interesting characters on the show, and I couldn't care less about them.

I agree that Paul's choice is ambiguous, that it conveniently put him close to Echo yet he still sacrificed his principles to save November. He kinda sold his soul. Not really a happy ending then.

I suppose it was also a good way to set a possible Paul/Echo pairing for a second season.

Or is he doing something similar to Angel in Ats, choosing to live in the belly of the beast to make a difference?

[sister_luck]

But his soul was already tarnished when he continued sleeping with Mellie/November. I'd like to see Boyd and Ballard talk about living in the belly of the beast...

[frenchani]

I don't think that continuing his affair with Mellie for a little while was the same as actually working for the Dollhouse's security. He was weak and cornered, it was difficult for him to break up while Mellie was so in love with him and oblious of the situation, but now he's become a willing "supporter" of what he called himself a slavery, he's part of the firm.

I saw the deal as an exchange of souls, his against November's (I forgot the girl's real name).

When are we supposed to know whether the show is renewed or not?
I'd like to know Boyd's background to understand his motives.

[syderia]

Alpha's criminal background and what it means in terms of nature vs nurture debate
Is it really nature vs nurture, or simply that their technology doesn't erase the previous personality as well as they would want ? (Which we already kinda knew from previous episodes.)

[frenchani]

But that's the point, precisely. They wiped all his memories out thanks to their technology, leaving him in a child state (not quite blank since dolls still know how to walk and talk), but they couldn't erase his personality, in other words, thye couldn't destroy what is the core of his identity, his very true nature or what Ballard would call his soul. Same with Caroline who keeps bleeding out in Echo.

[syderia]

I'll admit that I get queasy when the term "soul" is mentioned in relation to a Joss Whedon soul. He's fond of throwing the term out with ever really saying what he means by that.

They wiped all his memories out thanks to their technology
I don't think they did. Everything we saw on the show points to the memories still being there, but behind a subconscious barrier (explaining the previous personalities surfacing in the episode when they were all high).
What

[frenchani]

You've got a point here, I had completely forgotten the episode in which they were high!