Doctor Who review

Apr 17, 2017 16:01

So Doctor Who was great fun, and a great introduction to Bill :needs to find icons: It was wonderful seeing her reaction to everything, and she and the Doctor already have a very sweet friendship developing. ( Spoilers for Pilot )

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_profiterole_ April 17 2017, 15:45:27 UTC
it was a bit of a "oh duh" moment when all the reviews pointed out that it was really just meant to be the Doctor giving Bill a Christmas gift :D
Oh, nice one! I also thought it was something we'd see in a future episode.

I'm already super fond of Bill! <3

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frelling_tralk April 17 2017, 16:00:45 UTC
I think she's going to end up right up there with my favourite companions :D She reminded me a lot of Rose actually, with a little bit of Donna in there as well

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elisi April 17 2017, 15:48:39 UTC
I don't think that we've seen yet what made him and the Doctor start travelling together and being friendly, unless I'm forgetting an explanation from the last Xmas special?

From The Return of Doctor Mysterio:

DOCTOR: Fact me, baby. It's why I reassembled you.
NARDOLE: No, sir, that's not the reason, is it.
DOCTOR: Oh, just get on with it.
NARDOLE: You cut me out of Hydroflax because you were worried you'd be lonely. And we both know why, don't we. But, oh, look at you, avoiding the subject.
DOCTOR: I'm not avoiding anything, I'm just trying to save a planet.
NARDOLE: Which is what you always do when the conversation turns serious.

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frelling_tralk April 17 2017, 15:59:08 UTC
I suspected that I might be forgetting an explanation somewhere, thank you! It feels like they've rewritten Nardole's personality a bit from his initial appearance actually, suddenly he's sarcastic and more on the Doctor's wavelength, whereas he was pretty much written as a shrieking and cowardly fool in The Husband's Of River Song IMO, and there wasn't much else to him

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liliaeth April 17 2017, 16:03:49 UTC
well keep in mind that if the Doctor's been teaching on this university for over fifty years, then Nardole has been there with him, for those same fifty years. We don't know what Nardole's lifespan might be, but whatever it is, I'd still imagine that a guy would grow a bit more sure of himself (and thus more sarcastic)around an employer/friend/whatever that he's been hanging out with for five decades.

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frelling_tralk April 17 2017, 21:49:16 UTC
That's a good point, but it is a bit jarring to me still when we haven't really seen any of that character development since the original Xmas special, so when you compare the episodes he almost comes across as a different character. I wonder if they might incorporate a few flashbacks to that time maybe over the course of the season?

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bm_shipper April 17 2017, 17:28:44 UTC
And major ouch at Clara's theme playing when Bill confronts the Doctor over taking her memories :( :( :( I will never be over it *sobs*

What's sad is that he doesn't even know it WAS done to him. And in this connection Bill asking "how would you feel if someone did that to you?" was kind of bittersweet because even if it HAD happened to him, he wouldn't know. The audience does, he doesn't.

I read today in an article that Peter might already leave by the end of the season - not after the xmas special - and that Bill will only be there one season either, so obviously they wanna do a "clean cut" with a completely new doctor/companion combination...

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frelling_tralk April 17 2017, 21:43:06 UTC
He does talk to Clara in the cafe last season about being aware that he's missing memories of a 'Clara' though, he just has no memories of what kind of a person she was. He looked pretty tortured when Bill asked him to imagine what losing your memories would feel like, so I get the feeling that he is very much aware of those memories that are lost to him :(

And yeah I've read a lot of spec about Bill leaving after this season, I can understand Chris Chibnal wanting the same fresh start that Steven Moffat got, but it would be a real shame to only have the one season with Bill. 'Pilot' already felt like a bit of a reboot anyway through the eyes of Bill, so I'm not sure I want them to do the same thing with a new companion again next year

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ragnarok_08 April 17 2017, 23:49:13 UTC
I love Bill already too:)

And major ouch at Clara's theme playing when Bill confronts the Doctor over taking her memories :( :( :( I will never be over it *sobs*

I felt the same way...

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frelling_tralk April 18 2017, 00:00:10 UTC
It still hurts to watch clips from those final episodes :( Hopefully whatever ending Bill eventually gets will tear our hearts out slightly less than Clara and Amy's departures...

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eowyn April 18 2017, 07:12:40 UTC
I've been wondering about Nardole too. It seems like his body is battery powered or something ... I'm looking forward to getting the backstory to find out what went on there!

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frelling_tralk April 18 2017, 10:59:03 UTC
Yep, I'm definitely waiting for a bit more backstory on him, I guess that he comes from a species where the head is detachable?!

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