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Smallville's John Schneider Dislikes Man Of Steel's Jonathan Kent

“I love Kevin, and I love what Kevin does. But I didn’t care for one scene in there, where Jonathan was advising Clark to do something that was self-serving, it was tell a lie, I can’t remember exactly what it was. I think Jonathan Kent is the best dad perhaps ever depicted on

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[tabaqui]

If it's the movie and scene i'm thinking of, Mr. Kent told Clark he should have let a bus full of his peers from school drown/be hurt rather than diving down and ripping the emergency door off, because 'what if someone found out'.

I hated that movie, and that scene was one of the reasons why.

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Ah okay, that makes more sense then, I was just really confused at John Schneider's quote putting it as Clark being self-serving and telling a lie being the awful thing that Jonathan Kent would never advise, when Smallville's Clark Kent did exactly that for years

That scene definitely sounds pretty dark and un-Superman! I haven't seen Man Of Steel yet, although it's one of the films that I always plan to getting around to seeing one day.

[tabaqui]

I think i watched maybe half the first season of Smallville, so i have no idea what that Mr. Kent ever said, but - yeah. That scene was *so incredibly wrong*.

Superman would *never* do that, and his dad would never tell him to do that.

I hope you enjoy the movie, when you get around to it. I loathed it.

[elli]

I have a very different recollection of that character it seems.

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Yep, I was thrown by the mention of "tell a lie" being a flaw that didn't fit with Jonathan Kent, a major part of the characterisation of the Kent's on Smallville was how secretive and paranoid they were of Clark's secret, they constantly told him not to trust anyone with it and to cover up what he was doing

[elli]

To the point where they manipulated other people and made them paranoid, I remember vaguely.

[frelling_tralk]

I've always remembered how Lex was driven insane and given shock treatment by his own father in Shattered/Asylum, and Jonathan's response was to tell a devastated Clark to take some consolation in the fact that the forced ECT wiped Lex's memory of Clark's secret :shudders:

[hanorganaas]

SGA?

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I've never seen that show, sorry!

[sunclouds33]

The Good Wife

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Character I'd let hang from a cliff: I can't remember her name, but the blonde lawyer that always makes a big deal of playing up to the judges and and being really passive aggressive in her insults to Alicia

From someone who loves Man of Steel (while still acknowledging it's a far from perfect film)

[firebunny]

The scene he's referring to was in the trailer so you may have seen part of it

Re: From someone who loves Man of Steel (while still acknowledging it's a far from perfect film)

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Interesting! Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the Smallville Kent's didn't have a similar viewpoint, they just didn't want to look/feel like awful people by actually saying it. But for all that we were told that Clark learned to become Superman from the example that Jonathan set, his parents were hardly gung-ho at first when Clark did start rescuing people. They are really freaked out when he saves Whitney from the burning car explosion in the second episode, and Clark was always their first priority over others. Not that that's necessarily a bad PoV to have for a parent, but I definitely feel that becoming Superman and saving lives was more or less all down to Clark, his parents were generally more concerned with freaking out over what if someone saw their son doing something heroic