Insanity

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[frenchpresser]

"It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a Free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defense of it."

Let them guess who said that. I tried to comment, but it seems that you have to be an invited member of HotAir.

[fpb]

I'm not going to Google and I am going to guess that the villainous, tyrannous "statist" (an adjective/noun that always indicates folly in the user) was George Washington. If not, Jefferson.

Let's hear from all precincts

[notebuyer]

Like these guys: "The State cannot intervene in the areas where the initiative of individuals, communities and undertakings is sufficient." . Or this group, who evidently don't realize that society is prior and determines what rights people have:

Hence, the social order and its development must invariably work to the benefit of the human person if the disposition of affairs is to be subordinate to the personal realm and not contrariwise, as the Lord indicated when He said that the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.(6)

This social order requires constant improvement. It must be founded on truth, built on justice and animated by love; in freedom it should grow every day toward a more humane balance.(7) An improvement in attitudes and abundant changes in society will have to take place if these objectives are to be gained.

DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH

[fpb]

First and last warning. Putting words in my mouth is a deleting offence as far as I am concerned. NOW SHOW ME WHERE I SAID, IMPLIED OR SUGGESTED THAT "that society is prior and determines what rights people have". If you cannot see the abyssal difference between that and "That is not only false - no individual predates the society they live in - but stupid: it is a chicken-and-the-egg question. The State and the individual come together, as part of a whole", then I have no desire to continue this discussion.

Re: Let's hear from all precincts

[fpb]

First point: nothing you say has the least relevance to the proposition that an individual "deserves to keep" all "his" money; as if the existence of law and the State to enforce it had nothing to do with the very existence of what he has the nerve to call "his". You don't own anything except by decree of the laws. You recognize this every day by the mere forms of the papers you write and sign. Only property within the ambit of the laws is legitimate; what a thief calls his own is not his own. And you don't get to pick and choose which laws you obey, whatever Thoreau (in the same fraudulent pamphlet in which he claimed that the murderous John Brown was a fine fellow!) may claim. You may try to change the laws, but until they are there you obey them. Otherwise you are a terrorist.

Re: Let's hear from all precincts

[fpb]

In this matter, I am certainly no lover of the South Tyroler minority in our north, and you will not hear me speaking of them with approval often. But their former political leader, Sylvius Magnago, once put the Northern League's leader Umberto Bossi, who was agitating for a "fiscal strike", in his place, with a few pregnant words: "My fatherland is Austria, but I am a citizen of Italy. And citizens pay their taxes."