fpb

This is an attempt to move an online debate on my LJ

Feb 09, 2007 19:00

The Cuckoo: your dogma has no bearing whatever on historical fact, of which you are woefully ignorant. The sad thing is the cheerful confidence with which you retail the same old legends. For instance, the vast majority of early churches was built well away from pagan sites. You may have some fourth-hand notion of Gregory I's libellus responsorum ( Read more... )

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filialucis February 9 2007, 19:32:26 UTC
I would be avid for the background of this post. May I ask where the debate originated that you're trying to move here?

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fpb February 9 2007, 19:43:54 UTC
It's on the Biased BBC blog, which unfortunately is rather hard to itemize. It is in the answers thread to the most recent open thread post.

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filialucis February 9 2007, 19:52:21 UTC
Found it. Thanks!

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filialucis February 9 2007, 19:53:25 UTC
Would be nice if your cuckoo could at least spell the names of the authors he quotes. :D

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starshipcat February 10 2007, 13:33:33 UTC
As a historian, I have often found that the worst problems come not from the things that we don't know, but from the things everybody knows, that are dead wrong. Errors that have been repeated so many times they have attained a patina of authority which can be almost impossible to dislodge with facts.

And it's not just the "common herd" that fall prey to these -- there have been noted cases in which one erroneous statement has been cited by so many scholars, who were subsequently cited by other scholars, that subsequently uprooting the error became a major undertaking, and even reputable scholars would resist tooth and toenail.

And don't even get me started about the problem of commonly-held fallacies and fiction writing. You simply can't fight what Everybody Knows in fiction -- it's either bow to it or sidestep it.

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fpb February 10 2007, 14:47:30 UTC
As a fellow historian, I have only two things to say:
HEAR HEAR!
And,
Shake!

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By the way... fpb February 10 2007, 17:42:23 UTC
...having had a look at your profile page, I think you might find this post interesting: http://fpb.livejournal.com/85603.html.

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bufo_viridis February 11 2007, 02:38:24 UTC
Pagans always buried their dead outside the city walls, and never in sight of a temple.

Out of pure curiosity: that's about Britain's/European/which parts of Europe's pagans?

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fpb February 11 2007, 06:24:43 UTC
That's about Greeks and Romans. It is a generalization, but we should remember in which culture the Church was incubated

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bufo_viridis February 12 2007, 03:16:06 UTC
Generalizations are okay, as long as we know what we are talking about :)

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