oh what a night

Dec 13, 2003 17:30

When I woke up this morning I found tinsel in my shoes. Holiday parties - they follow you home! I'm scared to open the closet in case a choir leaps out and bellows Silent Night at me. But I have my favorite seasonal decoration on the fridge: my RotK ticket. I wonder if it'll still be valid if I sketch little sparkly reindeer on it ( Read more... )

writing, sex, themes, meta(ish)

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thete1 December 13 2003, 08:46:28 UTC
Mmmmm. Sexy worrrrds.

Like you, I've become desensitized to 'cock,' in about the same ways. There's only so many times you can type a word before it loses *all* meaning outside of its context. Weirdly, 'dick' still has a bit of frisson.

As I use it more often? That'll stop. *snerk*

At this point... well, the sex words that *have* meaning tend to have negative meanings. We've already discussed my 'moist' issues.

I still do get a charge from 'suckle,' but again, seriously context dependent. It can be so very wrong so *very* easily.

Blah procrastinate blah.

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flambeau December 13 2003, 13:55:03 UTC
Your moist issues are now my moist issues. You shared.

Dick, hmm, that can go either way for me. Sexy, silly. I think it's the way it turns up so often in non-sexual contexts, which cock doesn't, since I don't read a lot about poultry breeding.

At least once I lost my eep, sex words! thrill, I got to concentrate more on what actually went on in the scene, not try to rely on the vocabulary to carry the sexy vibe for me.

Will seriously consider suckle. :)

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thete1 December 13 2003, 14:48:41 UTC
It's all I ask. :D

But you know... I guess 'dick' is dependent on context, too. It can't be coincidental that I almost never see or hear the word *outside* of raunchier-than-usual slash these days. Hmm.

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laurashapiro December 13 2003, 16:27:55 UTC
I like "moist" just fine. Ditto "cock," although I agree it's had a lot of the ::ahem:: juice drained from it by this point.

Back when we were co-authoring, prillalar called me "Verb Woman," and it was only then that I realized that I give a lot more thought to the verbs in stories than I do to the nouns. "Cock" is throwaway, but "suck" is still hot business. Ditto scratch, moan, writhe, whine, wail, slither, etc. Coining new verbs is fun, too. In that story Hal and I wrote together, I used "whipcracked" do describe the reflexive action of an orgasming man's spine, and I think that's what inspired her to call me "Verb Woman" in the first place.

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synecdochic December 13 2003, 12:14:38 UTC
It's mostly in how the writer uses them, I think. "Cock" will still do it for me for the most part, as will "dick", but there are certain times for each and it takes a very zen approach towards figuring out which is appropriate at any given time. "Fuck" is a fun word, as is "cunt", but only when it's being used to describe someone's personality and not their anatomy :)

No throbbing rods, no quivering manhoods, no love-meat, no romance novel euphemisms. I am of the "fuck like real people and not like pornstars or romance novel characters" school of thought ..

Regarding the whole polyfandomorous thing that destina posted, I think that there's a real difference betwen "I want to write a story about $THEME, and $FANDOM is popular this season, so I'll write it with those characters," and "$FANDOM_CHARACTERS really show $THEME well, I think I'll try and write it." There's a lot of the former going on in fandom -- primarily in anime fandoms, actually, which is where I used to be, long ago, and which is where I made all my fandom mistakes before ( ... )

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flambeau December 13 2003, 14:54:07 UTC
See, this is why I think it's neat to have others look for one's themes and recurring narratives. I'd never have come up with the honesty and responsibility themes, but they feel very right. What do you think your own (current) OTT is ( ... )

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synecdochic December 13 2003, 19:13:12 UTC
My current OTT is actually the OTT that most of my stuff has included from day one -- inevitability. It's about a thing that needs to be done, and there's only one person who can do it, and that may be good and it may be bad but the one thing it isn't is avoidable. Or maybe it's about a bunch of choices that were made a long time ago, and those choices have all piled up and led you to this place and time, and you still have your free will now, but you've got a limited number of choices due to situation and everything you choose is going to be colored by things that you already chose. Or maybe it's about making choices that you have to make because of who and what you are, your ethics or your morals or your personality, and dealing with the way that those choices shake down -- not not having a choice, but having a choice that you struggle against because there's only one viable choice and it sucks. Each of my short stories starts ten minutes after the literary climax of the larger story it takes part in, and heads downhill from there ( ... )

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zombies ! direaliete December 13 2003, 13:33:03 UTC
Cock is invisible to me in sex scenes
That's kind of obvious after one reads your zombie story ;-)

By the way, I loved it! And I think what I most liked about the story is the plausibility of all -- never once did it occur to me that it couldn't happen.

That scares me. A little.
Not more than parts!JC did, though. *g*

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Re: zombies ! flambeau December 13 2003, 14:00:36 UTC
Hee! When pop star zombies go bad - film at eleven! I'm glad you enjoyed that; I had a blast, and I'm so glad nopseud made me play, and kept me on track, and all. For some strange reason, zombies and popslash seem to go together...

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Re: zombies ! direaliete December 13 2003, 14:25:34 UTC
Popslash, for the same strange reason, seems to go together with everything!

Thank you again for enlightening me to the sparkly path *g*

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afrai December 13 2003, 16:58:03 UTC
I'm not sure if I feel bad or good about the fact that when I think about recurring elements in my fiction, what leaps to mind is dental hygiene.

I say food.

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copracat December 14 2003, 08:23:49 UTC
There are no words that are sexy in their own right. It's all in the way the writer puts them together.

However, misuse can desexify words to the point where an otherwise good story can be disturbed by cliche. This is not always the fault of the writer. Why should you avoid cliched words if they work for your writing? Why should you be even aware of words that are cliched for all of the people who might read the story. Cliches may run in fandoms but I've never tried to find out if that is true.

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