Right.

Oct 11, 2006 08:25

Okay, first off: Ohio? Plz to be stopping with the smear ad campaign, for God's Pretty Sake. Seriously. Look, I know this one guy voted for/against some stuff, and this other guy voted for/against some stuff, and you want to capitalize on that. But those of us with brains can see exactly what the fuck you're doing! It's all just semantics ( Read more... )

rants, and another thing!, it is a serious post

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first_seventhe October 11 2006, 18:27:35 UTC
It's my first Ohio election and I don't even want to vote in it. Stupid commercials. :P

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siva630 October 11 2006, 19:26:53 UTC
(*breaks out "high school" history class skillz ( ... )

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first_seventhe October 11 2006, 20:46:45 UTC
Hee. I'm a pacifist, but I admit I'm a politically uneducated one, so I'm sure there are plenty of good reasons to go to war that I just don't know. I just really, really hate it.

The "war for oil" thing -- I can totally believe that it's true. It just seems that if we keep forcing our way in there with bombs and grit in our teeth, that's not going to help too much. Why can't we have an ally there, rather than some nation we torched and then camped out in?

As for Africa, that's part of the problem, really. And I don't want to say we should declare war on them either. It's just - the rate at which AIDS is growing, and other diseases, and - it just makes me very sad.

I just see (well, not personally, but you know what I mean) a culture that hates America, and all the nation is doing to fight this is bombing and killing, which will only create more hate in the end.

Also, I know all my arguments are simplistic in the view of world politics :P I'm an engineer. I look at data and solve problems in a straightforward way. You ( ... )

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first_seventhe October 11 2006, 20:51:50 UTC
*grins* I have more!

By "war of ideology" I meant the terrorist ideology. I don't for one minute believe that "eliminating the terrorist threat" is the sole reason we entered this war - hell no. I more mean the ideology of "the enemy" - the terrorists that attacked on 9/11, the reason that Iraq and Afghanistan won't lay down and do what we say (not like that isn't a whole other argument), etc.

I don't think Congress/Bush/Whomever's rhetoric about this being an idealistic war is true for a second.

I meant the idealism behind who is attacking US.

Man, I ramble when I'm bored at work.

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siva630 October 11 2006, 22:02:11 UTC
I could see how bombing Afghanistan (an extremely poor country with, btw Mr. Bush, ONE OF THE HIGHEST DEATH RATES IN THE WORLD) could be a counter to the 9/11 attacks, but Iraq had nothing to do with those attacks. Hell, the majority of the terrorists came from Saudi Arabia, and we know that America wouldn't touch them with a Pacific-sized barge pole with the amount of links and investment that they have in there ( ... )

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lassarina October 11 2006, 23:31:11 UTC
Amen. And then some.

Have an Intarweb.

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anonymous October 12 2006, 01:21:42 UTC
item 1 - As some one who certainly DOES NOT work for a company that makes things for the military, i certainly DO NOT know the massive, massive amounts of money that are spent for defense projects. That number is certainly not in the billions. It is certainly not in the millions for the parts that the company i DO NOT work for make. My brain yields to the thought of the wonderful positive things that could be purchased with the money CERTAINLY NOT NEVER spend on these things.

item 2 - from Continuum, Track 2, beginning at the refrain:

"we're never gonna win the world
we're never gonna stop the war
we're never gonna beat this
if belief is what we're fighting for"

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first_seventhe October 12 2006, 11:34:37 UTC
...You are hilarious.

Also, that's a good song.

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first_seventhe October 12 2006, 13:37:43 UTC
I would write something witty and insightful but I'm way too busy laughing my ass of at this chapter.

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cockpuppet October 12 2006, 18:46:39 UTC
America would be so better off if people like you were President, is all I will say to this.

Same for Britain. Although Blair's actually out on his ass now, I highly doubt that his sucessor will be any less pig-headed.

~Miri

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first_seventhe October 12 2006, 18:58:37 UTC
One of my favourite quotes:

Those most suited to rule are those least likely to do so.
Those most likely to rule are those least suited to do so.

:P!

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cockpuppet October 12 2006, 18:59:37 UTC
So true.

Goddamn human nature. >.<

~Miri

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