Um, is there anybody still wanting CoE spoilers cut? As opposed to just trying to ignore its existence, I mean. Well, the title of the article is pretty spoilery, so I'll cut just in case. ( Gist: comparison between Buffy and Torchwood. )
I'm pretty sure it was a virus, which is ridiculous in itself as no virus - alien or otherwise - would work like that. Gas would have worked better (but, like you, I've no intention of watching Day 4 again to check).
As someone who watched S3 first then went on to fall in love with S1 and 2, I think a lot of the issues with S3 for long term fans was that it was 'serious drama' with TW plunked down in the middle of it. I love it, but there is just no way you could classify TW as 'serious drama' before COE. S3 wasn't the TW you guys had come to know and love, and Jack, in particular, was incredibly badly characterised. You could drive the Titanic through the plot holes in it and, although TW isn't exactly watertight usually, it's not usually packaged in the shape of political drama as COE was.
I think I would have enjoyed COE if it had been a standalone miniseries and not a chance for RTD to once again prove to us that love=pain and that there are no happy endings.
Yeah, it was a pretty radical departure from the norm. There were always serious themes and undertones, but ...
And you can do social and political commentary without beating the audience about the head with it. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances actually did an amazing job of that: teen parenthood and what it does to a child to have their parentage hidden even from them, the stigma of illegitimacy and people acting like it's contagious, having to hide your orientation in the military, hoarding during times of scarcity, children having to look out for each other when the adults fail to. I mean, seriously, those two eps are loaded with social commentary, and yet they somehow manage not to beat you over the head with it and give a creepy as hell damned good adventure. And as a bonus, "just this once, everybody lives."
I wish there were some hope of Moffat taking over Torchwood as well as Doctor Who. *sigh*
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As someone who watched S3 first then went on to fall in love with S1 and 2, I think a lot of the issues with S3 for long term fans was that it was 'serious drama' with TW plunked down in the middle of it. I love it, but there is just no way you could classify TW as 'serious drama' before COE. S3 wasn't the TW you guys had come to know and love, and Jack, in particular, was incredibly badly characterised. You could drive the Titanic through the plot holes in it and, although TW isn't exactly watertight usually, it's not usually packaged in the shape of political drama as COE was.
I think I would have enjoyed COE if it had been a standalone miniseries and not a chance for RTD to once again prove to us that love=pain and that there are no happy endings.
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And you can do social and political commentary without beating the audience about the head with it. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances actually did an amazing job of that: teen parenthood and what it does to a child to have their parentage hidden even from them, the stigma of illegitimacy and people acting like it's contagious, having to hide your orientation in the military, hoarding during times of scarcity, children having to look out for each other when the adults fail to. I mean, seriously, those two eps are loaded with social commentary, and yet they somehow manage not to beat you over the head with it and give a creepy as hell damned good adventure. And as a bonus, "just this once, everybody lives."
I wish there were some hope of Moffat taking over Torchwood as well as Doctor Who. *sigh*
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