HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS PART 2 Spoiler Thread

[filkertom]

We're going to see the 9:45 IMAX 3D show this morning. And then it will be done.

Among the theses:

• overall success as a story
• success as an adaptation
• differences between book and movie and are those differences an improvement
• do they do anything to make Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione seem plausible let alone reasonable
• how much of the exposition in The

Comments

[tealbeen]

Hey, Fred got a great "onscreen" death in the book. But all three of them get the offscreen deaths in the film.

They got quite a few things absolutely perfect, though - the Pensieve scene, Harry's walk into the Forbidden Forest, the Epilogue (which I loved in the book, too).

Liked the movie a lot. Have to go back a couple times to see how I really feel about it.

[filkertom]

Nah. Fred's was more of an oops-yer-dead, much as Hedwig's was in the book. Given Hedwig's heroic death in DH Part One, I was hoping for better for the three of them. Sigh.

[tealbeen]

After a second viewing (yeah, I'm a re-re-re-repeater with films):

I was finding the words from the book singing in my head as I watched the film. The best adaptations do that, as there is always so much more in a book than you can cram into a film, even the best film. But knowing the book (and I LOVED Deathly Hallows - my favorite book of the series), this one, more even than the others, brought all the stuff that wasn't on the screen to me.

It was the same with Lord of the Rings - passages from the book would sing to me as I watched, deepening the already-excellent films with all the rest that wasn't on the screen.

[eoywin]

I loved the epilogue in the book, but I hated it in the movie. The kids don't look aged at all in the movie, especially Ginny who looks like a little girl playing dress up.

[filkertom]

Yeah, the only one who even looked close to the right age was Harry, and that was mostly mannerisms. And the sideburns.

[susan_the_rogue]

Completely OT, but Asheville Browncoat alert! ^_________^

[eoywin]

Shiny! I added you to my friends list :D

[aulayan]

The Pensieve scene was done much better than the books. But overall I found the movie framed poorly. and the way Ron/Hermione was presented would be a short term adrenaline fling, not something that'd last 19 years later.

[filkertom]

Roger on that one. I thought the framing of the movie was okay, for a film that was indeed mostly centered. Someone should've remined David Yates he had IMAX to play with. On the other hand, I really do think he hit it out of the park on the dragon escape.

[lariss]

MAde me feel so sad for the poor, fire breathing, death dealing dragon. MAN was I on its team.

And Snape. Alan Rickman gave3 that character so much more pathos than the book did. But I like some things from the book better anyway.

[alverant]

The movies have affected Hollywood. For the first time we have a series of movies with continuity between them and the same actors playing the same roles. No one has done that before and the success has given us things like Marvel Studios doing movie continuity between Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, and soon Cap America. I wonder what the future will bring.

[insane_ian]

No one has done that before? I'm sorry, have you heard of Star Trek?

[alverant]

Point taken. I forgot to include the point that we get to see the same actors grow up and see how the movies changed as they aged and how the movies were releases on a regular, predictable basis. Star Trek can't say that. The characters were already adults and the movies came out ... whenever.

[dr_zrfq]

That the Star Trek characters were already adults is true. The movies actually did come out on a regular schedule though... once The Wrath of Khan had established the series as viable, something The Motionless Picture had failed to do. (The extra year between movie 4 and movie 5 was largely due to strikes and the fallout therefrom.)

What I see as the Harry Potter series' major development is that there is an overarching plot arc lasting across so many movies, that they managed to keep pretty consistent despite flaws in the original material (I'm looking at you, Volumes 5 and 6). Getting to see the same actors grow up and change along with the movies is a MAJOR plus in getting the overall story across.

[ninkasa]

I think they actually did a better job with Harry/Ginny (which I hate) in the movie than they did Ron/Hermione.

They gave Neville some truly bad-ass moments and even gave Neville/Luna a nod, which thrilled me. :)

[msminlr]

Yeah, I was kind of shocked in the epilogue in the book when they did NOT wind up together. Haven't seen the movie yet, and probably won't for several weeks.

[filkertom]

Yepper on all counts. I bet there's going to be a severe rise in Neville/Luna fic, which is fine by me.

[dement1a]

I was thinking that "F**k Yeah Neville" was a site that needed to exist. And of course, it already does. But the best thing I found out of that little jaunt on the web was this:

http://vitaminkate.tumblr.com/post/2611065896/waaaant