TPoP

Feb 17, 2009 10:44

This one's going to be complicated and sum up a long history, so please anyone let me know if this ends up an exercise in difficult to follow linkitude.

Some time ago, the anti-pornography documentary The Price of Pleasure was released. Various bloggers had much to say about the sloppy research and propagandistic presentation of this documentary. I ( Read more... )

chyng sun, feminist, pornography, oh no they didn't, the price of pleasure, ernest greene, robert jensen, wtf?

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harperjean February 17 2009, 16:50:09 UTC
Fascinating. On a somewhat related note I finally got around to writing in some detail about the TPoP/2257 issue: http://polyperversity.blogspot.com/2009/01/does-anti-porn-documentary-violate.html

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fierceawakening February 17 2009, 17:37:15 UTC
I linked your post over at BPPA. :)

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catwoman980 February 17 2009, 20:00:00 UTC
What "good" is it going to do if they only show it to people who agree with them?

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fierceawakening February 17 2009, 20:16:31 UTC
I wish I knew.

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fierceawakening February 17 2009, 20:17:16 UTC
The thing is, they never explain it.

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miz_evolution February 17 2009, 22:22:39 UTC
I've seen what these folk are like first hand when stuck in a room with someone who does not agree and knows their shit...and while I know my shit, Ernest, so on, know their shit even better. In MN Jensen looked as if he would rather be riddled with pushpins for three days than have to discuss this film with me in the room...because I had my A game with me, I do porn, and I was not going to let him get away with all the weepy gut shot tactics.

These folk do not like opposition, even when it comes from a relative nobody like me. Getting it from the people they are EXPLOITING in their movie? No question it scares the shit out of them.

If they cannot defend their sloppy slanted work from just little old me? How can they defend it when confronted with the very people who are in their stupid docudrama?

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fierceawakening February 17 2009, 22:42:57 UTC
"In MN Jensen looked as if he would rather be riddled with pushpins for three days than have to discuss this film with me in the room..."

I'd say I'd help him with that, but it would require being in the same room with him...

If they cannot defend their sloppy slanted work from just little old me? How can they defend it when confronted with the very people who are in their stupid docudrama?

Yeah, that's the thing. SO MANY PEOPLE give this kind of thing a completely free pass. It makes me ill. I remember when I watched an anti-porn slideshow (really hastily put together and its makers admitted it was shoddy.) I was the only one in the room challenging it, and people thought I was kind of disgusting for not being totally revolted.

(Well, I was revolted at what they showed, but it was VERY OBVIOUSLY ridiculously cherry-picked, which I tried to point out. I mean, some of it depicted fetishes I hadn't even thought of, and I'm pretty kinked.)

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miz_evolution February 17 2009, 23:07:50 UTC
oh, TPoP is totally cherry picked too- all male dome BDSM and gonzo...you know, the TOP PORN FILMS (no features, no Pirates, my usual speech here) and when confronted with that...

Jensen looked like a landed fish. I honestly think he did not have ANY IDEA what he was up against or that oh, gee, maybe I had done my homework.

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roykay February 18 2009, 11:28:26 UTC
But you don't UNDERSTAND!

Keeping out porn people and their (uneditted) voices is probably exactly the kind of nobel repression Isme was talking about. They need to lie to counter The Patriarchy's lies.

No. Really!

(Okay. This getting into the mind of the anti-porners is giving me a migraine.)

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