More poll questions

[chacusha]

Hey everyone, two more things we'd like community input on:

1) moogle_workshop has a rule that fic featuring original characters will not be given points. But the Final Fantasy MMOs, FFXI and FFXIV, were brought up, and we weren't sure if fic set in the world of those games but featuring player characters rather than the canon NPCs would fall under the original

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[arivess]

I actually had a small discussion with sunflower_mynah, which kind of had to do with the first question, where she said it might depend on how much integrated in the canon storyline it is. I'd personally think it's fairer taking that into consideration.

Another question is about art -- pictures are a lot more recognizable as a game character; there aren't that many variations for character creation. Would fanart be treated differently from fic?

Also wondering if you want to extend the case to Crystal Chronicles characters, in case someone wanted to do those, since those are also a choice of characters? The only difference is they're on a slightly smaller scale. But... practically the same thing. (And technically, the MMOs actually have more details about world info to go off of, even...)

[thedrowned]

I think fanart is typically treated differently than fic, because in fic we get to learn about game-based OCs, which make them more of a character than just a "template", if you will, for your persona. But for fanart, there really isn't anything to go by other than "this is my Lilty, Ganos Lal", or whatever. I don't think the fanart should be treated as highly as something more in-depth like fanfic simply because we don't get to learn about them as much as we could.

[arivess]

*nods* I do agree too. But, I meant, my question is more on, if fic is too OC to count for points, what about art? Should they count for points because they're essentially a drawing of a game "template", as you put it? And what about things like comics that combine the two? Since that's most likely what I'd be doing. XD;

[thedrowned]

As far as I'm concerned, and this won't mean much because I'm no mod, but I think a fanart of any FF character should count for points. Maybe not as much because they are "templates", but then I don't think that would be very fair, would it? I believe as long as the spirit and energy and love, or some other mushy feeling, is there, it ought to count for a true fanart.

Besides, technically speaking, at least in FFCC, the character do have personalities and stories, designated by their race and the beginning of their creation. Uh. I should vote that, huh? Haha.

[thedrowned]

Hunts, yes. I used to mess with something similar to shiva_dancing. For that matter, could we also gain a nifty card game? I would looove some sort of minigame off the sides of our minigames.

This wasn't helpful at all, was it? :)

[sai_salamander]

LIKE TRIPLE TRIAD!! *hums with excitement*

[thedrowned]

Yes, my thoughts exactly. I'd love to see some Quadmist mumbo jumbo up in here.

[sai_salamander]

I said yes to giving the fics points, cos I still think writing something in the world counts! (Then again, I could be incredibly biased cos I'm writing comedians-dumped-in-Spira fic right now, but hey!)

I also think, what about a fic that is more place-centric than character-centric? I've wanted to write something about the Necrohol of Nabudis for soooo long now - the characters who would have lived there are all long dead, so they would technically count as OCs. And then what about a fic about a reaaaalllly minor character (some guy who's mentioned once in the Bestiary in FFXII or something), where the information about them just isn't there but they're still a character in an FF.

Bleh, anyway, I'll stop rambling and just say: YAY MUNCHKIN. GIMME.

[chacusha]

Argh so many grey areas!

There are some factors to consider here:
- Length and purpose of fic. If the fic is a short piece meant to flesh out the history of a place like the Necrohol, that would be more likely to count for points than an epic length fanfiction focused on OCs who lived there, with a storyline that revolves entirely around them.
- Ties to canon. If there are many references to canon characters, events, explaining the why behind certain things in the game world, etc. that would be more likely to count for points than something that starts from scratch with a character people aren't likely to know about.

Sorry this isn't very helpful. :/ I can just see both of those types of fics going anywhere between "OCs that have a tie to canon / OCs placed in an existing world" to "an expansion of the canon itself".

[sunflower_mynah]

Place-centric should be fine/more than fine (to me at least), because with a location you don't have to worry about its ties to canon - or rather, lack thereof, since that's the issue here.

The second one, with the really minor character, is admittedly a far, far bigger grey area because as chacusha said, both could go anywhere within the spectrum, but I think the second one is a little more problematic.

[lightofeilia]

I have it all planned out :D

I just hope it'll be good :X