Stamping Question Changes

May 02, 2012 20:45

Aaaaaaand now, stamping question changes. Most of them, we can't really change because there are still a lot of people that think they're helpful, and the mods have discussed problems with a few questions some people proposed to add, so we just have a few small changes this time.

Proposed changes and poll )

rule changes, ff_classchange

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serah May 3 2012, 00:51:42 UTC
Well as far as i can say anything, the cheerful / stoic might be a bit better than cheerful / serious, there are many ways of being cheerful, even if you're a serious person, i think at least =) i hope i am not saying something stupid here but so far i think it is alright !

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sunflower_mynah May 3 2012, 01:03:57 UTC
I still stand by my notion of Expressive/Stoic if you want to go with Stoic. I feel like... cheerful is only one end of the emotional spectrum, and it might be more helpful to go with how strongly you express your emotions (be they positive or negative.)

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chacusha May 3 2012, 01:48:33 UTC
This is about the Idealistic/Realistic dichotomy -- if we add this, I think it might actually be better to not make it a dichotomy and instead make it a more specific situational question. The reason I say this is because I used it in the Elemental Stamping App and then got really frustrated with it (my own question) when I was filling it out, mostly because I think "realistic" and "idealistic" are vague, ill-defined, or context-sensitive ideas that need to be clarified ( ... )

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sunflower_mynah May 3 2012, 04:23:12 UTC
Actually, thinking about it - you have a point there; it wasn't something I really had to think about too hard since I know where I consider myself on the spectrum (/cough) but you're right, it might be better to specify one definition or to put it as a situational question, although in the case of the latter you wouldn't call it idealistic/realistic - and I think the Spiderman question partially fills that gap?

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etsplanations May 3 2012, 02:35:13 UTC
I like "Playful/Serious" more as "Cheerful/Gloomy" seem like things that everyone goes through anyway, and can be taken as emotions, whereas Playful/Serious is more about an attitude towards situations or even a personality facet. I think Cheerful/Gloomy also has too much of a positive/negative feel to it, whereas Playful/Serious doesn't seem like a kind of positive/negative choice.

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the_404_error May 3 2012, 14:55:48 UTC
I personally prefer sunflower_mynah's suggestion of expressive/stoic, as those are actual opposites, where as the others tend to have more room for "well, it depends..." It's possible to be both serious and cheerful, and be playful around certain things but serious around others. Expressive also deals more with a wider range of emotions, so it offers the applicant more room for explanation ( ... )

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chacusha May 3 2012, 18:51:17 UTC
For me, the thing with Expressive/Stoic is that it seems redundant (or at least strongly overlapping) with the Logical/Thinking vs. Emotional/Feeling dichotomy, which is already on the app under the same section. They might be slightly different, like Expressive vs. Stoic talks about your emotional range/intensity whereas Logical/Thinking vs. Expressive/Feeling talks about the way you evaluate things or make decisions -- in a logical way or based on how they make you feel. But it could be argued that Expressive and Emotional/Feeling = respond to things emotionally, Stoic and Logical/Thinking = respond to things in a way detached from emotion.

As I said earlier, my aim with the original Cheerful/Gloomy dichotomy was to get a feel of whether the person tends more toward smiles or more toward neutral faces/frowns, which is different than just how volatile their emotions are, I think?

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the_404_error May 4 2012, 13:26:46 UTC
... I somehow completely forgot that Thinking vs. Feeling was already a question. /FAILS FOREVER.

Ah, I think that question is difficult to apply fairly towards the classes, though. Sure, thieves and monks are more cheerful, but I think that's something that tends to shine through the way people write and their other responses... and if people do say gloomy, they tend to automatically get typecast as soldier or dragoon, despite how there are cheerful soldiers (Tidus, Zack) and most dragoons (Kain and Cid being the exceptions) aren't really gloomy so much as... well, stoic.

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sunflower_mynah May 4 2012, 13:29:12 UTC
Whoops. I apologise. I tend to think of it as Expressive/Stoic because for me that's actually opposites. I suppose Playful/Serious would be a better choice, in that case - more lighthearted and playful as opposed to a sterner, more solemn demeanour.

Huh. Cheerful/Solemn?

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