New Post on Free Feri

[lillitu_shahar]

Free Feri Dot Org is a site run by initiates of the Faery Tradition. It is a complimentary site to faerytradition.org, faeryroads.com, and faerytradition.eu

There is a new post about plagiarism on the site, and I thought I would notify folks here. While I did not write this post, I read it with enthusiasm and thought others wuld like the chance to

Comments

[morganalilith]

hmmm.

i'm not an initiate, or even a student. just a seeker who've poked around the edges of the community for the last ten years or so. i observe. i draw my own conclusions based on how i see people behave.

my observation, so far, is that this new site appears to exist almost exclusively for the organized defamation of storm. wtf people?

[lillitu_shahar]

This is the first post that mentions any initiate by name on Freeferi, so I am astounded at your assertion.

As someone not involved in Feri or Faery, I can understand your confusion. As for Storm, this post rings true to many in the community. As someone on the outside, you do not get a chance to hear many sides other than the very public ones (such as the ones listed on feritradition.org), I bet.

[elorie]

"Defamation" requires that the assertions be untrue.

Besides...the fact that he's stealing work from other initiates doesn't bother you, but talking about it in public does? Interesting set of priorities there.

[elorie]

Also, I would like to generally put to rest the idea that any of us, including me, are just doing all this to be Mean to Storm aka "personal animosity." It's not personal at all; we were friends, so I thought. Right up until I objected to him linking to a site that had plagiarized material on it, three years ago. Then I became the exemplar of all that is evil and his personal nemesis literally overnight. I'm also not amused by the double standard involved, in which anyone who disagrees with him (me, Eldri, Elf, you name it) gets called everything but a child of God but laying out evidence in a bloodless and dispassionate fashion makes for "defamation."

When I decide to be deliberately mean to Storm, I will review his poetry.

[seagull42]

I post here, as I don't believe comments are allowed on Free Feri Dot Org

[inflectionpoint]

You raise an interesting and thoughtful point.

I would also add that while I don't know if these two passages are showing dependency on each other that points to violating fair use, the web site may be heading toward slander or libel with the way this is being discussed there. The folks running the site may want to vet their content with an attorney to make sure they aren't crossing any lines there. Corporations often do this to make sure that they aren't stepping on toes.

[elorie]

Please do not make veiled threats, or insinuations, in my community. There is no libel there, because the evidence is laid out; libel only applies if 1) the information is untrue, and 2) there's proof that the author knew it wasn't true or didn't sincerely believe that it was.

If someone can produce evidence of the same type...e-mails, even a Microsoft Word document with a date stamp...to show that Storm really DID come up with those ideas independently, then a retraction could (and, I guarantee, would) be printed. And that would be that.

[elorie]

Firstly, please read for comprehension. Elf's article was written well before her conversation with Storm, and owes nothing to it. She was discussing it in the context of possibly turning it into an article for Witch Eye. As a professional writer, I can tell you that pitching an idea to an editor does NOT then require the original author to acknowledge that editor as a source, even if they offer suggestions which you follow up on (though in that case you are fairly honor-bound to print the article in their publication). That's how that works. In this case, however, no ideas from Storm were incorporated