Elizabeth I does not approve of this bullshit

Apr 12, 2009 19:00

David Starkey says history has been "feminised". Among other things, he posits that Henry VIII was "emotionally incontinent" because he was raised surrounded by women, that Elizabeth I's status as a female icon is "ludicrous" ("During Victorian times her conduct was regarded as "perfectly deplorable", he added." Gee, maybe because the Victorians ( Read more... )

gender essentialism, patriarchy

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friend_of_tofu April 13 2009, 00:11:52 UTC
Well, that's because Starkey is a massive, massive cock. And because this is obviously a giant snit over the fact that authors like Alison Weir and Antonia Fraser outsell him about three to one. (Not surprising really; both of them write far better prose than he does, for one thing.)

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evewithanapple April 13 2009, 00:51:49 UTC
I'd heard mentions of him being a jackass, but never any evidence of it until now. Honestly, I think this was brought on by his new book- he wants to sell, so he's taking a leaf from Joanna Denny's book and smearing everyone around Henry to make him seem more important. Nevermind that he built his career on books about Elizabeth and Henry's wives. Ugh.

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arseaboutface April 13 2009, 00:55:24 UTC
Word.

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talkingtocactus April 14 2009, 12:25:54 UTC
definitely true!

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holyschist April 13 2009, 04:05:42 UTC
Jesus, what a dipshit. Seriously, maybe their books focus on Henry's wives because they're...about Henry's wives? If I want a book about Henry VIII, I'll buy a book about Henry. It's like buying a book about Eleanor Roosevelt and then complaining that it's not about FDR.

Who knew that apparently women NEVER EVER DID ANYTHING USEFUL OR NOTEWORTHY IN HISTORY EVER just because David Starkey's having trouble selling books. Oh, yeah, and the Victorians were apparently great arbiters of historical value AHAHAHAHA PULL THE OTHER ONE MR. STARKEY.

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squinting_kitty April 13 2009, 09:38:21 UTC
I like how it's obviously because the women tell biased stories. The male view of history is just the default, unbiased, unvarnished truth, dontcha know. But, no, when a woman tells it, and focuses on the women in history, it has to be biased.

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prophetsong April 13 2009, 16:06:29 UTC
I read that a few days back and it gave me The Rage so thanks for posting. I've never liked David Starkey anyway - far too full of his own self-importance and has an annoying tendency to accept his own hypotheses as Fact whilst denigrtaing those of other writers, usurally the female ones. Alison Weir's book on Henry's wives is a bout 20 times better than his and doesn't include masses of generalisations and assumptions.

Have you been watching his new tv series (for which these comments are obviously some cheap attempt at publicitity)? Already he is implying that all of Henry's later faults were somehow the responsibility of his mother who raised him wrongly.

He also misses the point that maybe feminine viewpoints have come the the forefront in recent times because for years they were surpressed by the dominant white male middle class perspective - an age I suspect he's rather like to return to!!

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talkingtocactus April 14 2009, 12:27:00 UTC
i completely agree - i've not watched the series yet but i'm taping it (as a historian i feel obliged!) - i suspect i'll just make me annoyed.

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thedinglestarry April 14 2009, 06:44:22 UTC
Rage ON! I was totally disgusted by this, especially the idea of women historians writing history *for women*... FFS. (As you pointed out, the fact that he as a man has a massive massive obssession with Henry VIII doesn't mean anything). And the fact that he basically spoke about female historians and people who write historical romance novels as if they were the same thing... AARRRGH. Fuckin' HATE Starkey.

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