And that's how they worked it so Jensen could play (a variation of) Sam, and Jared could play (a variation of) Dean.
We'll see, I guess. But I wish I didn't know that the actor who does play Dean wasn't publicly vocal, for the first time in six years, about being unhappy with the writing for his character almost fully half-way into the season's shooting. And I can see some of what he's talking about already, and it does concern me that they're trying to take a lot of what should be inherent to Dean's characterization regardless of life-long experience and misery away from him. There's growth, and then there's outright robbing Peter to pay Paul.
I hope the remaining first half episodes play out better for the character of Dean than Jensen's outright frustration indicated two weeks ago, for his sake as much as the fans'.
I missed something. I've never heard Jensen outright complain about Dean. He was or was not publicly vocal? What exactly did he say and to whom and in what context or circumstances? Vid link? Interview link? 'Cause truly, I don't know what you're referring to.
Right now, what I see is growth. Of course, I'm coming into the season optimistic, not dreading what might or might not happen. If I came into the season dreading it, I wouldn't be writing so much about it, I don't think.
And I'm willing to wait for things to develop, because goodness knows I sat through a lot of ---- last season that I really didn't like.
But I'm interested in what Jensen said. Linkies, please?
(Sorry if this reply sounds curt. I'm just kind of surprised that this is the first I've heard of Jensen publicly expressing frustration, if it happened a while ago. *iz puzzled*)
Haven't read the article yet (I'm trying to avoid spoilers as much as possible from here on out), but thank you very much, and also for linking to the most complete junket interview. More edited versions are, of course, less desirable, and Twitter conversations are, imo, nothing more than fandom making a mountain out of a mole hill.
And that headline? That's to "sell papers." Totally reads like media spin to me.
I read Clif's twitter from time to time, but I'm not on his FB.
The only time I can recall Jensen saying anything negative about a project is in reference to Devour. He's always positive (or at worst, neutral), and usually in PR mode (though I do think he's pretty honest in his reactions to stuff).
Perhaps I shall skim the article. Or wait until the ep has aired . . . Hm . . .
I thank you for not reflecting the fandom tendency to go off the deep end in a tizzy. Your reasoning is understandable without the frothing panic that fandom is prone to.
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We'll see, I guess. But I wish I didn't know that the actor who does play Dean wasn't publicly vocal, for the first time in six years, about being unhappy with the writing for his character almost fully half-way into the season's shooting. And I can see some of what he's talking about already, and it does concern me that they're trying to take a lot of what should be inherent to Dean's characterization regardless of life-long experience and misery away from him. There's growth, and then there's outright robbing Peter to pay Paul.
I hope the remaining first half episodes play out better for the character of Dean than Jensen's outright frustration indicated two weeks ago, for his sake as much as the fans'.
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Right now, what I see is growth. Of course, I'm coming into the season optimistic, not dreading what might or might not happen. If I came into the season dreading it, I wouldn't be writing so much about it, I don't think.
And I'm willing to wait for things to develop, because goodness knows I sat through a lot of ---- last season that I really didn't like.
But I'm interested in what Jensen said. Linkies, please?
(Sorry if this reply sounds curt. I'm just kind of surprised that this is the first I've heard of Jensen publicly expressing frustration, if it happened a while ago. *iz puzzled*)
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IGN article, mildly spoilery, so read at own risk.This was a press junket two weeks ago, done two days before the premiere, and they were shooting 6:08 at that time ( ... )
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And that headline? That's to "sell papers." Totally reads like media spin to me.
I read Clif's twitter from time to time, but I'm not on his FB.
The only time I can recall Jensen saying anything negative about a project is in reference to Devour. He's always positive (or at worst, neutral), and usually in PR mode (though I do think he's pretty honest in his reactions to stuff).
Perhaps I shall skim the article. Or wait until the ep has aired . . . Hm . . .
I thank you for not reflecting the fandom tendency to go off the deep end in a tizzy. Your reasoning is understandable without the frothing panic that fandom is prone to.
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You are right about the Dean-like Sam missing a key element: the bravado. And I hadn't identified it in words, so thank you.
It's going to be an interesting season. Hair-pulling and nail-biting and shrieking at the TV screen, but interesting...
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Isn't that why we started watching the show in the first place?
;-)
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