Comments | favorthebold: 16th step: Woolgathering [voice]

favorthebold

16th step: Woolgathering [voice]

Apr 14, 2009 23:53

Do none of you miss your homelands? I ask sincerely. No one here ever mentions where he'd come from, no one speaks of his faith, his ways, his history... it's a wretched thing for a man in exile to never speak his country's name. Or is it that you have no countries at all? None of you ( Read more... )

exile, this is carmen's fault, keeping his own ways, the nameless bond, strange new world

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teeheepriest April 14 2009, 21:15:59 UTC

Not giving information to strangers is a thing I can see many men choosing.

favorthebold April 14 2009, 21:31:50 UTC

The name of one's homeland is hardly information that needs hiding, especially here.

teeheepriest April 14 2009, 21:34:52 UTC

It depends on one's experience with travelling throughout worlds, dimensions, and time.

favorthebold April 14 2009, 21:38:06 UTC

Perhaps. I have no such experience.

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feline_sonata April 14 2009, 21:33:52 UTC

I'm English. Lots of people here know what that is, but in my world, unlike every other, we have 'cat ears' and 'cat tails'. That's what everyone else says.

And I haven't been home in a long time. I don't even remember, not really, what it looks like. See, I was taken from it to a place much like this world.

And there, it doesn't matter where you come from. They make you into nothing but an ideal piece of property.

I learned quickly that where I was from and what I used to be...it didn't matter. So I don't even think of talking about it here because the desire to was, well. Rather literally beaten out of me. I don't mind talking about home, it simply doesn't occur to me to talk about it...not on my own.

favorthebold April 14 2009, 21:42:12 UTC

'English' means nothing to me, but it is good to hear, still. They might have beaten the desire out of you, but surely not the memories.

feline_sonata April 14 2009, 22:06:00 UTC

Memories is all you got, place like that.

favorthebold April 17 2009, 21:14:38 UTC

Then tell me. I will not beat you, and I want to hear. It would be good, to hear such memories, knowing what they've survived.

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turn_a_blindeye April 14 2009, 22:20:03 UTC

Hm...So many questions as of late.

favorthebold April 17 2009, 21:15:27 UTC

It's no great question, dome.

iceandivory April 15 2009, 00:10:46 UTC

Talking about your origins is a far cry from returning to them.

favorthebold April 17 2009, 21:16:16 UTC

Not speaking of them is losing them a second time.

iceandivory April 17 2009, 21:28:57 UTC

I don't need to explain culture or custom to others to retain my own identity.

heavenly_earth April 15 2009, 01:14:55 UTC

Some are better off here rather than at home. Speaking of them will not bring them back, and among the shinobi, loyalty to our country still stands in the form of our allies and the recent leaders that have arrived. An explanation of an entirely different world, custom, and culture is unnecessary.

Each world has their own war and struggles to fight against and there have been many inner conflicts you've surely noticed.

There are some things here- lives, even -that allow for second chances. You can't blame anyone for taking advantage of those opportunities; it would be foolish not to.

[Private to Neji // Unhackable] turn_a_blindeye April 15 2009, 02:23:21 UTC

While I don't disagree with you, Neji, and I'm certainly no sit-in-a-circle/hold-hands/share-feelings kind of person, uh...take this point as you will...argument for argument's sake.

Just...food for thought.

Unnecessary or not, and distracting as it may be, an explanation of another world, its customs and cultures, might help you to understand your neighbors and the baggage they bring to this world. Right now, we're all basically separate nations.

It's hard to be a team if we each go it alone.

So, yeah, it'd be foolish not to take advantage of what you have here, but it would be foolish to completely neglect the past you're building on, hm? After all, we brought our conflicts with us. Others have too. It's too hopeful to assume they'll just...disappear.

[Private to Kakashi // Unhackable] heavenly_earth April 15 2009, 02:33:54 UTC

This was not a discussion about teaming up, I believe. Your point is more than valid regardless, but I don't feel as though I should explain to each individual what our world is like on the basis of being accused of disloyalty.

Such a discussion is likely to come up at some point, though that is not at the moment.

Of course it is too hopeful to think maybe our problems will diminish, and it seems as though enemies from our world have appeared just to defy that alone. That doesn't make it just our problem, naturally, as it's everyone's the moment they appeared here.

You should instead have a talk with Unohana-san if you haven't already.

[Private to Neji // Unhackable] turn_a_blindeye April 15 2009, 03:16:24 UTC

Then don't explain it. No one said that you specifically were disloyal, Neji, and for you to get so upset about it makes me wonder if you still question your own loyalty, simply because you enjoy your home here. Don't worry. You wear your allegiance on your hitai-ite, and that you still remain with your team, your comrades... No one questions it, regardless of where you chose to stay in the end.

He asked if we missed our homelands, compared us to exiles, invited us to share information. You took it as a question of disloyalty, but any question about allegiance is one of fraternity.

And therefore teams.

Coming on the heels of Carmen-chan and Unohana-san's thoughts about team-efforts and community, as well as Lelouch's and other posts, it seems like a natural train of thought. People are loyal, allied, because they share values, beliefs, common traits. I think we've gotten to the point that the honeymoon here is over, and people are beginning to draw lines and divide into alliances based upon their values and goals. Maybe ( ... )

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