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maikichelorrain January 2 2012, 20:10:03 UTC
Je crois que tu as tout résumé :/a.
Et maintenant je m'en vais shipper Lestrade/Molly la la la

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falling_voices January 3 2012, 11:52:21 UTC
Lestrade/Molly is practically canon by this point - even Loo Brealey has picked up on it in her twitter feed. :D

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katty008 January 2 2012, 22:00:52 UTC
Sherlock and John turn everyone into BAMFs, including Mrs. Hudson.

And just, yes to your interpretation of Sherlock and Irene's relationship. That is my headcanon for all of Sherlock's relationships, he couldn't care less what they look like, but if their mind catches his attention grand things will happen.

My other headcanon is that Sherlock has a speaker in his violin and is just trolling everyone because hell, they didn't even try.

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falling_voices January 3 2012, 11:55:06 UTC
Honestly, I think Mrs Hudson is the BAMF-turner. That little scene in her apartment was the loveliest part of the episode.

I was surprised by the number of people who grumbled But why did they have to make her his love interest? after the episode aired, because I didn't pick up on that at all. I can see how you can interpret their relationship that way, but saying it like it's fact, regardless of the fact that they were both playing each other ninety percent of the time, seems a bit far-stretched to me.

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fireblazie January 2 2012, 23:29:12 UTC
Yes! I was hoping you'd post one of these ♥

I was really confused by the last 10 minutes, too. :\ I mean, part of it was probably due to the fact that my livestream kept dying rrrrgh but, yeah. It didn't fit right. I've not read A Scandal in Bohemia unfortunately, but I knew that she was supposed to outwit him and, er, "get away with it"? So I was waiting for that to happen, but it didn't D:

MRS. HUDSON, YES.

And Sherlock wanted to be a pirate! ahaha, aw.

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falling_voices January 3 2012, 11:59:29 UTC
Yeah, the last ten minutes cheapened the glory of the rest of the episode. It's sad, because Irene and Sherlock's relationship had been utterly intoxicating before then - I'd have liked a more open-ended finish, I suppose. That Witness Protection Program would have been more faithful to the original story, or leaving an ambiguity as to whether she's dead or alive - that'd have been nice as well.

In SCAN, she absolutely outwits him, but the thing is that SCAN covers only about half of the episode - the rest of it ties in with the Moriarty subplot. If they'd followed the original storyline alone, it'd have ended right before Christmas Eve, after Irene has returned his coat. It still doesn't make sense, though: Irene Adler is The Woman because she outsmarted him and bested him at his own game. Taking that away from her - from them - is plainly a horrible writing decision.

Pirate!fic has already by prompted over on the meme. ♥

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veronamay January 2 2012, 23:39:59 UTC
I have many, many thoughts still to put in order, but I like a lot of what you've said here, particularly as regards Irene. Something tells me the fandom will be discussing this version of her for a long time to come.

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falling_voices January 3 2012, 12:03:23 UTC
I'm looking forward to your post - you're usually so much more articulate than I am. Irene is a very interesting character, and the sad thing, I think, is that the last ten minutes don't make me dislike her at all - they make me dislike Moffat's treatment of her, as though she were already a separate entity in her own right, instead of a character he'd spun into existence himself.

On the one hand, it means that he's succeeded in making us love her and view her as a three-dimensional person; on the other, it certainly lessens my opinion of him both as a scriptwriter and as a person.

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veronamay January 3 2012, 12:18:11 UTC
I'm currently scribbling down random thoughts and ideas and some rationalisations are starting to form about those last ten minutes that will enable me to rewatch the episode without wanting to throw things. Moffat's plot has definitely done a disservice to the character, but I'm also trying to see things from his POV as a writer to figure out if (and how) things could have ended differently.

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falling_voices January 3 2012, 23:07:14 UTC
I've had a rewatch, and noticed quite a few things that had escaped me the first time over, and fell rather more in love with Irene than before (seriously though, just look at her). I also have such a rising fondness for this little scene; it's so warm and domestic and family. ♥

There are so many ways Moffat could have ended that episode. I still rather like the idea that it's something they arranged together to have Irene escape Mycroft's (and everyone else's) clutches, tbh. Other possibility: the Doctor swoops in, knocks everybody out, and takes her out for tea, scones, and the universe. She and River rampage through the stars.

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shadowfireflame January 3 2012, 05:29:54 UTC
Thank you so much for this, especially the problems with Irene's character at the end. Sherlock making her beg him really did not sit well with me, either. I'm about to watch it again, and I will keep your observations in mind as I do. :)

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falling_voices January 3 2012, 12:06:21 UTC
You're welcome! I'm glad you found this post thought-worthy. ♥

The 'make the Dominatrix beg' concept is revolting, and the mere fact that they have to degrade the fantastic character they've created, with the sole purpose of putting Sherlock up on a pedestal - when the entire original story is about Sherlock Holmes being outsmarted - I'm having a lot of trouble dealing with that.

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