every explosion has an epicentre.

[falling_voices]

So. The Wedding.

I've loved a fair few things, was disappointed by a few others, and have mixed feelings about a couple of issues - especially plot wise. ONWARDS.

Comments

[katty008]

You know my feelings on what I love already, you know how much I love pretty much all the same things. Brigadier, you were loved and we hope you know that. That was the sendoff he deserved, and I hope Sarah gets something similar next season. (Or maybe SJA will film one last episode, or tack something on the end, and we will all be bawlingAnd YES, that is all my feelings on the Silence. As long as you can't see them and they're doing that time skip thing, they're terrifying, but once they come out of hiding they're complete dorks with rubber fingers and a flair for the overdramatic. And yeah, did not like how River was all teary, and then "Whups, look what silly little me did

[falling_voices]

As long as you can't see them and they're doing that time skip thing, they're terrifying, but once they come out of hiding they're complete dorks with rubber fingers and a flair for the overdramatic.

Exactly. The only thing that creeps me out about seeing them is that weird clicking sound they make. But otherwise, they're better and more frightening when you can't remember them. (Also, ugh, River. The problem is that I like her character but dislike her storyline. :/)

Two call-backs to Rose in one season, that's more than S5 had. I like it. I like that the Doctor doesn't forget, never forgets, any of his old friends.

It's retconning every single silly "Doctor Who?" joke into something cosmically significant. Oh my goooood hadn't seen it under that light. That's brilliant.

[veronamay]

THIS. ALL OF THIS. I had Thoughts on the episode but I don't appear to be able to be analytical anymore, so thank you for writing down my thoughts for me.

[falling_voices]

Are you still ill? D: but you're welcome, many thoughts were had. It was a very inspiring episode, even though I'm still torn between the fantastic stuff and the plot's discontinuity issues.

[veronamay]

Yeah, I'm still moderately miserable.

I think the problem is (for me at least) that the s5 finale was so mindblowing that this one doesn't quite compare. I'm sure there are plotholes in the s5 finale that are big enough to drive a truck through, but the impact more than made up for it. This one didn't have the same feel.

[falling_voices]

Baw. Here, have some tea. And a hug.

Exactly! I mean. I loved most of RTD's era, and I'm one of those disgustingly stubborn fans who have loved all of Nu!Who's Doctors, and all of Nu!Who's companions, but s5 blew me away completely. The Doctor's every enemy making an alliance, and the Pandorica, and the stars going out, and the universe!reboot, and the Doctor's goodbye speech to Amy, man, you don't get that everyday. But it looks like Moffat has been aiming for something even more grandiose this season, and didn't really succeed. It feels a bit artificial, in parts.

I just want a soft, understated finale for s7 now.

[maikichelorrain]

Plus au moins pareil.
Au final, les aliens desservent le plot, et c'est tout - ils n'ont que cette fonction, et c'est bien dommage.
J'ai bien aimé le 'Doctor Who?' même si le fait que ce soit la question la plus important de l'univers me laisse un peu perplexe.
Et puis River... je me suis rendue compte que ce que je n'aime pas chez River, ce n'est pas tant River en elle-même, mais tout ce qu'il y a autour et qui est fait dans le seul but de la rendre 'spéciale' comme tu dis (dans une fic, ça sentirait un peu le Mary Suism à force d'insister comme ça XD) . Sans compter que certains passages sont un peu foirés.

[falling_voices]

Doctor Who. I don't watch it for the plot.

Mais oui, c'est clairement ça, re: River. J'aime bien River - et je pense que c'est pas mal dû au fait que c'est Alex Kingston qui la joue, j'adore cette actrice - mais Moffat en rajoute encore et encore et au final ça fait forcé.

Et oui, pourquoi Doctor Who? je comprends que ce soit la question la plus importante pour le Docteur, mais pour l'univers en entier? :/ je suppose qu'on n'a plus qu'à attendre ce que Moffat a en réserve de ce côté-là. (Comment ils vont la rendre en français celle-là? ils n'ont quand même pas déjà traduit le titre par Docteur Qui...)

[gladdecease]

Oh dear, I am with you on so many points here. (Especially the sky trains, wow did I love those. And that the Tesselecta was a bit of a cop-out after all the far more clever fan speculation. And that River being put up on a pedestal is a bit distasteful, especially after RTD was accused of doing the same with Rose.) Your selection of quotes is particularly wonderful.

And watching this finale I'd presumed the TARDIS exploding was a previous attempt by the Silence to kill the Doctor. I figured the assassination attempts would increase in frequency up to the day Dorium kept talking about, and the TARDIS was just the first one (or the first one that got close, anyway).

[falling_voices]

SKY TRAINS THO. And Churchill has his personal mammoth, which I find endlessly endearing. o/

Re: the TARDIS exploding, that's actually a very good theory. I just wish Moffat would make it clear that either he's not explained it fully enough, or it'll be a plot point in the future, but - gah, I just don't like it when threads remain loose at the end of a season. There's preparing a future arc, and then there's leaving some issues wide open without any resolution.

[gladdecease]

They were just so pretty, and I love when things are beautifully functional (very present in well-designed steampunk).

Churchill's comment about downloads has me wondering how other technologies intersected. If they all exist at once, do people buy Betamax or Blu-Ray? Also, I really want to see other cities from this universe. New York: part skyscrapers and food carts on every street, part immigrant city, part New Amsterdam, part forest used by Native Americans for cultural practices. The Empire State Building always in the process of being built, with tour groups coming up to view the sights while workers eat lunch on hanging beams?

I agree, it completely ignores that unspoken contract with the viewer, that unless there's a cliffhanger, everything from this series should be resolved in the finale. And if there is a cliffhanger, it should get resolved in the next series's opener. Instead, we got the Doctor wondering "Hmm, who tried to blow me up, and what for?" and it's just left at that.

I want to hope it'll be addressed in

[falling_voices]

YES! the way the cars went up on balloons too, it felt remarkably real. And dinosaurs in Hyde Park...

I want fic about the alternate!universe. I want Amy&Rory fic, I want Paris!fic, I want the story of how they allied up against Madame Kovarian and imprisoned(ish) so many Silents. I want the story behind the office/train and the Area 52!pyramids and Churchill vs. Cleopatra.

Mentioned this upthread to veronamay: it feels like Moffat has been trying to outdo the grandiose s5 finale, by putting in loose plot thread and loose plot thread and loose plot thread, and then... forgot about tying up some of them altogether. Just. What. Many things just don't many any sort of sense.

[misha0529]

Just popping in to say, I WANT TO READ THIS SO BADLY.

[falling_voices]

THEN WATCH THE BLOODY EPISODE. :D