Jesse weeps with remorse and Walt rubs his shoulders, comforting Jesse in the same way he'd wanted to comfort Skyler
You know, in this Season? Whenever Walter touches someone besides with a handshake I just get the most creepy vibes radiating off the TV screen. And that is no joke, there's something really dark lurking in Walter in this season as he reveals the Heisenberg aspect of himself and I can't help but recoil from that.
I think I remember saying Jesse walking away from Walt is akin to a boy becoming a man and separating his identity from that of his parents. ( Original discussion hereLike some coming of age experiences, it's not a happy one, with the parent unwilling to let the young man/woman go and the young man/woman finally just saying, "Fuck it. I'm gone. Period
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I think you're right that Jesse's journey has been a 'coming of age' and it's been a painful one. The only way Jesse can really become a man is not by following the example of his father figure but by realizing his father figure is wrong and breaking away to become his own man.
And yes, touchy feely Walt in S5 is creepy. Walt was never physically affectionate with Jesse before this season. Even the hugging in 'ABQ' was accidental as Walt was just trying to drag Jesse out of the crack house. So when Walt is comforting Jesse in these later episodes it seems eerily calculated.
Ah this was perfect!! Really great stuff (damn, how can I wait till next summer?).
It's hard not to feel a little bit happy for them.
Yeah, I really enjoyed this, and the "yes sir" -scene. Walt and Jesse's relationship seemed (at the moment) actually quite healthy
The episode ends with Walt showing off his new watch to Skyler which is maybe the closest Walt gets to his own "I fucked Ted" moment
Yep! But, alas, Skyler is not affected much.
Then Jesse hears Walt cheerily whistling and he's reminded that Mr White isn't really Mr White anymore.
Oh my god Walt how stupid you can be?? :l
Walt desperately screams after Jesse that if he leaves he'll have nothing but as Jesse walks out the door it really feels like Walt is the one being left destitute.
Right! You can almost hear Walt thinking : "If you leave, I have nothing!".
Walt has earned nothing from his empire but massive bail of paper
Getting free of Walter White and the drug trade has not saved Jesse. He's still lost, aimless, drugged up and more isolated than ever, just
( ... )
How can ANY of us cope until next summer?? *clings*
You can almost hear Walt thinking : "If you leave, I have nothing!".
Losing Jesse was such a blow to Walt and it really seemed to kill Walt's passion for his meth empire. Walt's new work buddies - Todd, Declan, Lydia - were all so cold, efficient and remorseless. Walt should've been happier with them. But he wasn't happy. Walt just wanted his Jesse comfort blanket back.
you can _murder_ people to save Jesse but you can't SPEAK UP ._.' It's so sad. I have this theory that Walt will one day express his fatherly feelings towards Jesse and when that day comes Jesse will be wearing a wire and helping to hand Walt over to the DEA
( ... )
So I've really sucked at commenting on these recaps or thinking of much to add, but I just want to say that I've really enjoyed reading them and thanks so much for putting them together :)
And for #3 Idk, it's hard to think of an ideal ending for them really when their relationship is so fucked-up and unbalanced that in one way the happy ending would be Jesse finding the truth and breaking free of Walt's influence, but on the other hand noooo :/ I really don't have any clear thoughts on how I'd like it to go, I mostly want for the flash-forward to be in some way about Walt wanting to protect Jesse I suppose..
Thanks so much for reading. Comments and discussion are great but just knowing people are reading and enjoying these posts is enough for me. :)
in one way the happy ending would be Jesse finding the truth and breaking free of Walt's influence, but on the other hand noooo
Exactly! What is the happier ending? If Jesse never knows about Walt's betrayals then that will feel like a big injustice. But Jesse learning the truth will not make things better for him. Jesse's been so loyal to Walt. He killed an innocent man to save Walt. How can Jesse cope with learning that this man who he's been so devoted to is a man who stood by and let his girlfriend choke to death, a man who poisoned a child as a manipulation, a man who murdered their partner Mike out of pure spite? If the writers go there it's going to be devastating.
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Sad this is the last one for now :(
Jesse weeps with remorse and Walt rubs his shoulders, comforting Jesse in the same way he'd wanted to comfort Skyler
You know, in this Season? Whenever Walter touches someone besides with a handshake I just get the most creepy vibes radiating off the TV screen. And that is no joke, there's something really dark lurking in Walter in this season as he reveals the Heisenberg aspect of himself and I can't help but recoil from that.
I think I remember saying Jesse walking away from Walt is akin to a boy becoming a man and separating his identity from that of his parents. ( Original discussion hereLike some coming of age experiences, it's not a happy one, with the parent unwilling to let the young man/woman go and the young man/woman finally just saying, "Fuck it. I'm gone. Period ( ... )
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I think you're right that Jesse's journey has been a 'coming of age' and it's been a painful one. The only way Jesse can really become a man is not by following the example of his father figure but by realizing his father figure is wrong and breaking away to become his own man.
And yes, touchy feely Walt in S5 is creepy. Walt was never physically affectionate with Jesse before this season. Even the hugging in 'ABQ' was accidental as Walt was just trying to drag Jesse out of the crack house. So when Walt is comforting Jesse in these later episodes it seems eerily calculated.
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It's hard not to feel a little bit happy for them.
Yeah, I really enjoyed this, and the "yes sir" -scene. Walt and Jesse's relationship seemed (at the moment) actually quite healthy
The episode ends with Walt showing off his new watch to Skyler which is maybe the closest Walt gets to his own "I fucked Ted" moment
Yep! But, alas, Skyler is not affected much.
Then Jesse hears Walt cheerily whistling and he's reminded that Mr White isn't really Mr White anymore.
Oh my god Walt how stupid you can be?? :l
Walt desperately screams after Jesse that if he leaves he'll have nothing but as Jesse walks out the door it really feels like Walt is the one being left destitute.
Right! You can almost hear Walt thinking : "If you leave, I have nothing!".
Walt has earned nothing from his empire but massive bail of paper
Getting free of Walter White and the drug trade has not saved Jesse. He's still lost, aimless, drugged up and more isolated than ever, just ( ... )
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You can almost hear Walt thinking : "If you leave, I have nothing!".
Losing Jesse was such a blow to Walt and it really seemed to kill Walt's passion for his meth empire. Walt's new work buddies - Todd, Declan, Lydia - were all so cold, efficient and remorseless. Walt should've been happier with them. But he wasn't happy. Walt just wanted his Jesse comfort blanket back.
you can _murder_ people to save Jesse but you can't SPEAK UP ._.' It's so sad. I have this theory that Walt will one day express his fatherly feelings towards Jesse and when that day comes Jesse will be wearing a wire and helping to hand Walt over to the DEA ( ... )
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And for #3 Idk, it's hard to think of an ideal ending for them really when their relationship is so fucked-up and unbalanced that in one way the happy ending would be Jesse finding the truth and breaking free of Walt's influence, but on the other hand noooo :/ I really don't have any clear thoughts on how I'd like it to go, I mostly want for the flash-forward to be in some way about Walt wanting to protect Jesse I suppose..
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in one way the happy ending would be Jesse finding the truth and breaking free of Walt's influence, but on the other hand noooo
Exactly! What is the happier ending? If Jesse never knows about Walt's betrayals then that will feel like a big injustice. But Jesse learning the truth will not make things better for him. Jesse's been so loyal to Walt. He killed an innocent man to save Walt. How can Jesse cope with learning that this man who he's been so devoted to is a man who stood by and let his girlfriend choke to death, a man who poisoned a child as a manipulation, a man who murdered their partner Mike out of pure spite? If the writers go there it's going to be devastating.
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Oh, I think they'll go there. Because it will be devastating.
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