that begs the question: why don't you just let it go already?

Mar 10, 2008 16:35

Okay, so admittedly I'm more of a grammar/usage stickler than your average bear, but as much as everyone should take the 5 seconds and think about which its/it's they need to use and take the half a day or so required to master the use of apostrophes in general (particularly those who work with signage), just let us "beg the question" without Read more... )

jerkfaces, aaaaraaghhhhhhh!, academia

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mercuryfading March 10 2008, 21:39:00 UTC
Printing out a sheet of cards to hand out to people who've violated your precious philosophical jargon by introducing it into non-philosophical contexts is absolutely the opposite of "discreet."

PS - It also completely violates the method by which the English language, um, works.

When jargon passes into the language, it becomes something else. A cliche, a phrase, whatever. It's not wrong, just different.

Then again, speaking of philosophy, I'm a major Descriptivist because what makes grammar and language cool is how it is always changing.

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fakely_mctest March 12 2008, 05:26:16 UTC
I do seem to recall you getting into heated discussions with -- um, philosophy guys about whether or not the English language was allowed to change. Or how important it was to follow basic rules of grammar/spelling.

Because that HS "everyone knows what I MEAN" argument is dopey. Someday I'll reanimate Daniel Webster and prove that with extreme prejudice and/or brain-eating.

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prettyfool March 10 2008, 21:49:14 UTC
To all stupid jargonized philosophy types,

YOUR MOM begs the question.

Love,
Me

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fakely_mctest March 12 2008, 05:26:40 UTC
Hee.

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aedos March 11 2008, 00:23:47 UTC
I miss Mayorga. Which begs the question (heh, I used it wrong ON PURPOSE, so SUCK IT BTQ freaks)can we hang out there when we FINALLY get together?

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fakely_mctest March 12 2008, 05:28:38 UTC
You know I'm always fine with coffee. Although there's this dude who works there who REALLY wants to make me a peppermint mocha (don't ask because I don't exactly know why apart from the fact that my boring-ass coffee choices apparently hurt him personally).

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timmy_fuck_up March 11 2008, 00:25:15 UTC
I actually get to teach begging the question to my sophomores as part of the speech/persausion unit (we cover logical fallacies), so I'm doing my part to tear down this ivory tower definition and bring it to the people. Or something like that. I also refer to it as 'circular reasoning,' not that that helps much.

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fakely_mctest March 12 2008, 05:33:34 UTC
I just think there's a difference between talking about the statement "He's ugly because he's unattractive," as being wrong and meaningless and saying it "begs the question..." because it's the "formal" and "correct" linguistic/logical way to talk about it. Eff that.

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Social Skillz? U no haz them! mercuryfading March 11 2008, 03:44:40 UTC
PPS - "Epically boring fail" is the best phrase I have heard to describe most of my attempts to socialize at St. Andrews. There were, admittedly, a few bright spots, but mostly total FAIL.

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Re: Social Skillz? U no haz them! fakely_mctest March 12 2008, 05:37:59 UTC
Okay, but there were different flavours of fail, right?

Philosophy gatherings? Epically boring fail.
Wine and cheese party? Both retarded and hilarious.
Pub quiz? Angry and hilarious.

Don't even get me started on AltSoc or IndieSoc or whatever. But speaking of which, they played "Great DJ" and "That's Not My Name" at the Derby last night. I flove my bar.

My favorite grad student gathering was that one at the gulag where we all ended up on blankets on the lawn and Chris told me my blanket smelled like camping. Was that Jew night or Italian sauce-off night?

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Re: Social Skillz? U no haz them! ciara_mkb March 13 2008, 20:22:13 UTC
That must have been Jew night because I was at the Italian sauce-off night and there was no Chris there.

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Re: Social Skillz? U no haz them! fakely_mctest March 13 2008, 21:15:40 UTC
Or maybe it was another random time. I seem to recall that the Jewish food was served around Passover, which is in the early spring (i.e., too cold to sit outside in northern Scotland). My brain, she ain't what she used to be.

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